Re: hdd kills vm
by daggs
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 9:50 AM
> From: "Martin Kletzander" <mkletzan(a)redhat.com>
> To: "daggs" <daggs(a)gmx.com>
> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com
> Subject: Re: hdd kills vm
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 03:06:55PM +0200, daggs wrote:
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:28 PM
> >> From: "Martin Kletzander" <mkletzan(a)redhat.com>
> >> To: "daggs" <daggs(a)gmx.com>
> >> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com
> >> Subject: Re: hdd kills vm
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 04:59:08PM +0200, daggs wrote:
> >> >Greetings Martin,
> >> >
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 12:37 PM
> >> >> From: "Martin Kletzander" <mkletzan(a)redhat.com>
> >> >> To: "daggs" <daggs(a)gmx.com>
> >> >> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com
> >> >> Subject: Re: hdd kills vm
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 02:42:38PM +0200, daggs wrote:
> >> >> >Greetings,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I have a windows 11 vm running on my Gentoo using libvirt (9.8.0) + qemu (8.1.2), I'm passing almost all available resources to the vm
> >> >> >(all 16 cpus, 31 out of 32 GB, nVidia gpu is pt), but the performance is not good, system lags, takes long time to boot.
> >> >>
> >> >> There are couple of things that stand out to me in your setup and I'll
> >> >> assume the host has one NUMA node with 8 cores, each with 2 threads as,
> >> >> just like you set it up in the guest XML.
> >> >thats correct, see:
> >> >$ lscpu | grep -i numa
> >> >NUMA node(s): 1
> >> >NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-15
> >> >
> >> >however:
> >> >$ dmesg | grep -i numa
> >> >[ 0.003783] No NUMA configuration found
> >> >
> >> >can that be the reason?
> >> >
> >>
> >> no, this is fine, 1 NUMA node is not a NUMA, technically, so that's
> >> perfectly fine.
> >thanks for clarifying it for me
> >
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> * When you give the guest all the CPUs the host has there is nothing
> >> >> left to run the host tasks. You might think that there "isn't
> >> >> anything running", but there is, if only your init system, the kernel
> >> >> and the QEMU which is emulating the guest. This is definitely one of
> >> >> the bottlenecks.
> >> >I've tried with 12 out of 16, same behavior.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> * The pinning of vCPUs to CPUs is half-suspicious. If you are trying to
> >> >> make vCPU 0 and 1 be threads on the same core and on the host the
> >> >> threads are represented as CPUs 0 and 8, then that's fine. If that is
> >> >> just copy-pasted from somewhere, then it might not reflect the current
> >> >> situation and can be source of many scheduling issues (even once the
> >> >> above is dealt with).
> >> >I found a site that does it for you, if it is wrong, can you point me to a place I can read about it?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Just check what the topology is on the host and try to match it with the
> >> guest one. If in doubt, then try it without the pinning.
> >I can try to play with it, what I don't know is what should be the mapping logic?
> >
>
> Threads on the same core in the guest should map to threads on the same
> core in the host. Since there is no NUMA that should be enough to get
> the best performance. But even misconfiguration of this will not
> introduce lags in the system if it has 8 CPUs. So that's definitely not
> the root cause of the main problem, it just might be suboptimal.
>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> * I also seem to recall that Windows had some issues with systems that
> >> >> have too many cores. I'm not sure whether that was an issue with an
> >> >> edition difference or just with some older versions, or if it just did
> >> >> not show up in the task manager, but there was something that was
> >> >> fixed by using either more sockets or cores in the topology. This is
> >> >> probably not the issue for you though.
> >> >>
> >> >> >after trying a few ways to fix it, I've concluded that the issue might be related to the why the hdd is defined at the vm level.
> >> >> >here is the xml: https://bpa.st/MYTA
> >> >> >I assume that the hdd sits on the sata ctrl causing the issue but I'm not sure what is the proper way to fix it, any ideas?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> It looks like your disk is on SATA, but I don't see why that would be an
> >> >> issue. Passing the block device to QEMU as VirtIO shouldn't cause that
> >> >> much of a difference. Try measuring the speed of the disk on the host
> >> >> and then in the VM maybe. Is that SSD or NVMe? I presume that's not
> >> >> spinning rust, is it.
> >> >as seen, I have 3 drives, 2 cdroms as sata and one hdd pt as virtio, I read somewhere that if the controller of the virtio
> >> >device is sata, than it doesn't uses the virtio optimally.
> >>
> >> Well it _might_ be slightly more beneficial to use virtio-scsi or even
> >> <disk type='block' device='lun'>, but I can't imagine that would make
> >> the system lag. I'm not that familiar with the details.
> >configure virtio-scsi and sata-scai at the same time?
> >
>
> Yes, forgot that, sorry. Try virtio-scsi. You could also go farther
> and pass through the LUN or the whole HBA (if you don't need to access
> any other disk on it) to the VM. Try the information presented here:
>
> https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#usb-pci-scsi-devices
>
> >>
> >> >it is a spindle, nvmes are too expensive where I live, frankly, I don't need lightning fast boot, the other BM machines running windows on spindle
> >> >run it quite fast and they aren't half as fast as this server
> >> >
> >>
> >> That might actually be related. The guest might think it is a different
> >> type of disk and use completely suboptimal scheduling. This might
> >> actually be solved by passing it as <disk device='lun'..., but at this
> >> point I'm just guessing.
> >I'll look into that, thanks.
so bottom line, you suggest the following:
1. remove the manual cpu pin, let qemu sort that out.
2. add a virtio scsi controller and connect the os hdd to it
3. pass the hss via scsi pt and not dev node
4. if I able to do #3, no need to add device='lun' as it won't use the disk option
Dagg.
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ANNOUNCE: Mailing list move complete
by Daniel P. Berrangé
This is an announcement to the effect that the mailing list move is now
complete. TL;DR the new list addresses are:
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In my original announcement[1] I mentioned that people would need to manually
re-subscribe. Due to a mixup in communications, our IT admins went ahead and
migrated across the existing entire subscriber base for all lists. Thus there
is NO need to re-subscribe to any of the lists. If you were doing filtering
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Note, we had some technical issues on Thursday/Friday, so if you sent
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With regards,
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Activate storage during domain migration
by e-m＠mailbox.org
Hi,
I have a block storage which I only want to be mounted on a single node.
I know that there are many possibilities for shared storage usage but I
want to know if the following is possible (using the API).
- Have a domain running on node-A
- Initialize a migration for that domain to node-B
- Run a hook or something just before the domain starts on node-B to:
- unmount storage on node-A
- mount/prepare storage on node-B
Thanks and best regards,
Etienne
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Libvirt
by Gk Gk
Hi All,
I am trying to collect memory, disk and network stats for a VM on kvm host.
It seems that the statistics are not matching what the OS inside the VM is
reporting. Why is this discrepancy ?
Is this a known bug of libvirt ? Also I heard that libvirt shows cumulative
figures for these measures ever since the VM was created. Also I tested by
creating a new vm and comparing the stats without a reboot . Even in this
case, the stats dont agree. Can someone help me here please ?
Thanks
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help,virsh start vm failed
by 展荣臻（信泰）
Hello,all
I start vm failed as show below:
()[root@com1 tmp]# virsh start centos
error: Failed to start domain centos
error: Start job for unit machine-qemu\x2d1\x2dcentos.scope failed with 'failed'
as the same time error "2021-02-27 08:58:31.688+0000: 22: error : virSystemdCreateMachine:361 : Start job for unit machine-qemu\x2d4\x2dcentos.scope failed with 'failed' " in libvirt.log.
How I dig into this question.thanks
9 months
Can't start vm with enc backing files, No secret with id 'sec0' ?
by 18781374080
Hey, guys
I've been working on whether libvirt supports encrypted snapshots,Here are my versions of libvirt and qemu
[root@xx ~]# libvirtd -V
libvirtd (libvirt) 4.5.0
[root@xx ~]# qemu-img -V
qemu-img version 2.12.0 (qemu-kvm-ev-2.12.0-33.1.el7_7.4)
Copyright (c) 2003-2017 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers
1. assign $MYSECRET to libvirt secret using the secret-define and secret-set-value commands,and $MYSECRET is in base64 format
MYSECRET=`printf %s "123456" | base64`
2. created a disk encrypted in luks format
qemu-img create --object secret,id=sec0,data=$MYSECRET,format=base64 -f qcow2 -o encrypt.format=luks,encrypt.key-secret=sec0 enc.qcow220G
3. The encrypted disk is defined in the XML configuration file, as shown below.Then I successfully started the virtual machine.
<disk type='file' device='disk'>
<driver name='qemu' type='qcow2'/>
<source file='/root/enc.qcow2'/>
<backingStore/>
<target dev='hda' bus='ide'/>
<encryption format='luks'>
<secret type='passphrase' uuid='694bdf38-214e-48d3-8c4c-9dbbcf0f5fa0'/>
</encryption>
<alias name='ide0-0-0'/>
<address type='drive' controller='0' bus='0' target='0' unit='0'/>
</disk>
4. According to the qemu documentation, an encrypted snap.qcow2 disk was created with enc.qcow2 as backing
qemu-img create -f qcow2 -F qcow2 --object secret,id=sec0,data=$MYSECRET,format=base64 --object secret,id=sec1,data=$MYSECRET,format=base64 -o encrypt.format=luks,encrypt.key-secret=sec1 -b 'json:{"encrypt.key-secret": "sec0", "driver": "qcow2", "file": {"driver": "file", "filename": "/root/enc/enc.qcow2"}}' snap.qcow2
I used the same $MYSECRET as the password data for the disk. Here is the disk information for snap.qcow2
image: snap.qcow2
file format: qcow2
virtual size: 20G (21474836480 bytes)
disk size: 480K
encrypted: yes
cluster_size: 65536
backing file: json:{"encrypt.key-secret": "sec0", "driver": "qcow2", "file": {"driver": "file", "filename": "/root//enc.qcow2"}}
backing file format: qcow2
Format specific information:
compat: 1.1
lazy refcounts: false
refcount bits: 16
encrypt:
ivgen alg: plain64
hash alg: sha256
cipher alg: aes-256
uuid: ab0e3f87-35e7-40cb-9888-9fe9bb54e981
format: luks
cipher mode: xts
slots:
[0]:
active: true
iters: 115582
key offset: 4096
stripes: 4000
[1]:
active: false
key offset: 262144
[2]:
active: false
key offset: 520192
[3]:
active: false
key offset: 778240
[4]:
active: false
key offset: 1036288
[5]:
active: false
key offset: 1294336
[6]:
active: false
key offset: 1552384
[7]:
active: false
key offset: 1810432
payload offset: 2068480
master key iters: 30085
corrupt: false
5. Then I changed the configuration of the XML, as shown below.And re-define and start the virtual machine
<disk type='file' device='disk'>
<driver name='qemu' type='qcow2'/>
<source file='/root/snap.qcow2'/>
<backingStore type='file'>
<format type='qcow2'/>
<source file='/root/enc.qcow2'/>
<backingStore/>
</backingStore>
<target dev='hda' bus='ide'/>
<encryption format='luks'>
<secret type='passphrase' uuid='694bdf38-214e-48d3-8c4c-9dbbcf0f5fa0'/>
</encryption>
<address type='drive' controller='0' bus='0' target='0' unit='0'/>
</disk>
Then the startup failed and an error was thrown. As shown below.
qemu-kvm: -drive file=/root/enc/vm/enc-snap.qcow2,encrypt.format=luks,encrypt.key-secret=ide0-0-0-luks-secret0,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive-ide0-0-0: Could not open backing file: No secret with id 'sec0'
The sec0 secret id could not be found in the backing file, this is my problem.
Is there a problem with the way I implemented it, or does libvirt currently not support this?
Any tips or help will be appreciated, Looking forward to your reply. Thank you
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9 months
[libvirt-users] how xml generated
by 李卓瑶
hi :
i create a domain by virt-manager tool, then there is a xxx.xml generated in /etc/libvirt/qemu/.
so, my question is how the xx.xml generated? What the code involves in libvirt ?
Thanks!
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9 months
[libvirt-users] How to convert "device_model_version = "qemu-xen-traditiona"" into libvirt xml file How to convert "device_model_version = "qemu-xen-traditiona"" into libvirt xml file
by hanyandong
I am using Xen-4.4.0, libvirt-1.2.9
My ubuntu.cfg is:
ubuntu10.cfg
bootloader = "/usr/local/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader"
builder="hvm"
memory = 512
name = "ubuntu"
vif = [ "type=ioemu,bridge=ovsbr0", "type=ioemu,bridge=ovsbr0","type=ioemu,bridge=ovsbr0","type=ioemu,bridge=ovsbr0",,"type=ioemu,bridge=ovsbr0"]
device_model_version = "qemu-xen-traditional"
If I didnot add " device_model_version = "qemu-xen-traditional" " to ubuntu.cfg, I only can add four NICs to VM.
If I add five or more,, I got these errors:
libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:1371:device_model_spawn_outcome: domain 12 device model: spawn failed (rc=-3)
libxl: error: libxl_create.c:1186:domcreate_devmodel_started: device model did not start: -3
libxl: error: libxl_dm.c:1475:kill_device_model: Device Model already exited
If I add " device_model_version = "qemu-xen-traditional" " to ubuntu.cfg, I can apply 8 NICs to VM.
But, I want to create domU by virsh(libvirt), so How convert " device_model_version = "qemu-xen-traditional"" to xml file used by virsh?
and How many NIC can a VM have? what leads to this limit？
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