9:23 p.m.
I have been installing kvm guests on a number of hosts and have been
managing them through a single virt manager on one of the hosts. I am
looking for a tool that will allow me to manage them from a windows
workstation, possibly using a web interface. Everything I've looked at
and read about seems to require a linux workstation to install on, like
oVirt or ConVirt. I am looking for a product that can run on a windows
workstation using either firefox or ie.
dave
10:46 p.m.
Am 28.07.2011 15:23, schrieb David M. Barlieb:
I have been installing kvm guests on a number of hosts and have been
managing them through a single virt manager on one of the hosts. I am
looking for a tool that will allow me to manage them from a windows
workstation, possibly using a web interface. Everything I’ve looked at
and read about seems to require a linux workstation to install on, like
oVirt or ConVirt. I am looking for a product that can run on a windows
workstation using either firefox or ie.
Same here!
S
11:06 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:46:44PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> I am looking for a product that can run on a windows workstation
using
> either firefox or ie.
I'd expect sometime soon to see someone develop a basic version of that
using Libvirt-php (http://libvirt.org/php/).
Depending how you've got things set up DRBD-MC (a Java app) is getting to
the point of usefulness (http://www.drbd.org/download/drbd-mc/). It works
best if you're using DRBD & Pacemaker with your VMs, but it's possible to
use just the VM-management features.
Whit
1:11 a.m.
Am 28.07.2011 17:06, schrieb Whit Blauvelt:
Depending how you've got things set up DRBD-MC (a Java app) is
getting to the point of usefulness
(http://www.drbd.org/download/drbd-mc/). It works best if you're
using DRBD & Pacemaker with your VMs, but it's possible to use just
the VM-management features.
That looks promising at first glance, but maybe a bit too much for
installing it on the customers WinXP-box. The customers I need this for
would be overwhelmed, even with the "operator"-mode of DRBD-MC. But I
will review this closer ...
I am looking for something like
http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/
for XP, just to give the customer a way to interact with his virtual
boxes, to check if they are running and press "Start" if they somehow
crashed or something (I monitor the VMs via script, yes, but you know ...)
Giving them putty and "virsh list" and "virsh start" is a poor thing,
especially as noobs don't see the value and power behind the
virtualization host. A GUI-centric windows-user isn't impressed by a
plain shell command ;-)
Thanks,
Stefan
1:23 a.m.
On 07/28/2011 11:11 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 28.07.2011 17:06, schrieb Whit Blauvelt:
> Depending how you've got things set up DRBD-MC (a Java app) is
> getting to the point of usefulness
> (http://www.drbd.org/download/drbd-mc/). It works best if you're
> using DRBD& Pacemaker with your VMs, but it's possible to use just
> the VM-management features.
That looks promising at first glance, but maybe a bit too much for
installing it on the customers WinXP-box. The customers I need this for
would be overwhelmed, even with the "operator"-mode of DRBD-MC. But I
will review this closer ...
I am looking for something like
http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/
for XP,
Should be doable - there are existing ports of python, ssh, libvirt, and
other prereqs to virt-manager all built for mingw, such that it should
be possible to use virt-manager directly on windows.
--
Eric Blake eblake(a)redhat.com +1-801-349-2682
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
1:26 a.m.
Am 28.07.2011 19:23, schrieb Eric Blake:
Should be doable - there are existing ports of python, ssh, libvirt,
and
other prereqs to virt-manager all built for mingw, such that it should
be possible to use virt-manager directly on windows.
Interesting. I'd be happy to hear from someone how much effort this
needs. You know, I shouldn't have to install dozens of pkgs to the
XP-box, taking hrs of work maybe ;-)
Maybe I give it a try on a test-XP tmrw.
Thanks, S
1:33 a.m.
Maybe give them $200 netbook Ubuntu control system... or run a linux
control station in Virtual Box on XP?
David.
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 28.07.2011 19:23, schrieb Eric Blake:
> Should be doable - there are existing ports of python, ssh, libvirt, and
> other prereqs to virt-manager all built for mingw, such that it should
> be possible to use virt-manager directly on windows.
Interesting. I'd be happy to hear from someone how much effort this
needs. You know, I shouldn't have to install dozens of pkgs to the
XP-box, taking hrs of work maybe ;-)
Maybe I give it a try on a test-XP tmrw.
Thanks, S
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1:50 a.m.
2011/7/28 Stefan G. Weichinger <lists(a)xunil.at>:
Am 28.07.2011 19:23, schrieb Eric Blake:
> Should be doable - there are existing ports of python, ssh, libvirt, and
> other prereqs to virt-manager all built for mingw, such that it should
> be possible to use virt-manager directly on windows.
Interesting. I'd be happy to hear from someone how much effort this
needs. You know, I shouldn't have to install dozens of pkgs to the
XP-box, taking hrs of work maybe ;-)
Maybe I give it a try on a test-XP tmrw.
Thanks, S
I have that basically working, see
https://github.com/photron/msys_setup
That's a bunch of scripts that build libvirt using mingw on Windows.
It also covers virt-manager, but there are still many things to port
and fix until virt-manager works properly on Windows, as it assume a
Linux specific things in some places.
But virsh is working and tested with TCP and TLS transport. SSH
transport wasn't tested yet, so I don't know if it work properly,
maybe.
At some point there will probably be an installer for libvirt and
virt-manager for Windows, but we're not there yet. A prebuild
installer for libvirt and virsh can be found here
http://libvirt.org/windows.html
Unfortunately it's a bit outdated.
--
Matthias Bolte
http://photron.blogspot.com
3:46 a.m.
Am 28.07.2011 19:50, schrieb Matthias Bolte:
I have that basically working, see
https://github.com/photron/msys_setup
Wow, amazing!
That's a bunch of scripts that build libvirt using mingw on
Windows.
It also covers virt-manager, but there are still many things to port
and fix until virt-manager works properly on Windows, as it assume a
Linux specific things in some places.
Oh, that's unfortunate (for me).
But virsh is working and tested with TCP and TLS transport. SSH
transport wasn't tested yet, so I don't know if it work properly,
maybe.
At some point there will probably be an installer for libvirt and
virt-manager for Windows, but we're not there yet. A prebuild
installer for libvirt and virsh can be found here
http://libvirt.org/windows.html
Unfortunately it's a bit outdated.
Will check that soon, maybe tmrw.
Only having virsh on windows seems a bit pointless for my needs, as a
putty-session to my linux-hosts does the same CLI-based stuff ... or am
I wrong?
If I were more of a coder I would maybe be able to hack something on top
of that, small binary showing "domain importantVM is running" and giving
the chance to start/stop it. Not more.
Just think of the boss at your customers site. They need their server
and they should be able to simply start it when the power went down or
somthing, and for some reason libvirt does not start the domain even as
it has been set to autostart (I have one of those!).
->
I have a quickanddirty-solution in form of a (crontabbed) shell-script:
grep "virsh list" for "my vm is running", if error, "virsh
start" it and
mail the admin (me).
This helps ... and keeps my phone quiet in the morning ...
I know there are way more sophisticated tools out of the
cluster-toolbox, but for my small customers this is overkill most of the
time.
Greets and thanks, Stefan
4:17 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt-users] Re: management tools for kvm
The 28/07/11, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 28.07.2011 19:50, schrieb Matthias Bolte:
Only having virsh on windows seems a bit pointless for my needs, as
a
putty-session to my linux-hosts does the same CLI-based stuff ... or am
I wrong?
If I were more of a coder I would maybe be able to hack something on top
of that, small binary showing "domain importantVM is running" and giving
the chance to start/stop it. Not more.
Just think of the boss at your customers site. They need their server
and they should be able to simply start it when the power went down or
somthing, and for some reason libvirt does not start the domain even as
it has been set to autostart (I have one of those!).
We have the exact same needs. We want our customers to be able to
just start/stop VMs and check the state of the machines.
Honestly, I've been disappointed in the past by the libvirt API changing
too fast (breaking our "snapshot-to-the-NAS" tool). This is why I rely on
virsh commands rather than libvirt directly, for now.
I've already started something using the same backend logic but it's not
finished and too dirty to be published.
I wonder if libvirt-php couldn't add some very simple API (not moving so
far) for our particular use case. If so, I may start a (very simple) web
interface. I guess it would be enough for most users.
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