2:44 a.m.
it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
participated in writing the code.
David Kiarie (1):
src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c | 1 +
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h | 1 +
tests/xlconfigtest.c | 1 +
3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
--
2.20.1
2:44 a.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
Signed-off-by: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
---
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c | 1 +
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h | 1 +
tests/xlconfigtest.c | 1 +
3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
index accfc3a..8029579 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.c: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
index e519186..20b9f3d 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.h: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (c) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/tests/xlconfigtest.c b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
index b1eb8a0..158d793 100644
--- a/tests/xlconfigtest.c
+++ b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
*
* Copyright (C) 2007, 2010-2011, 2014 Red Hat, Inc.
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
--
2.20.1
5:07 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
On 2/21/19 7:44 PM, David Kiarie wrote:
Signed-off-by: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
---
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c | 1 +
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h | 1 +
tests/xlconfigtest.c | 1 +
3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
index accfc3a..8029579 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.c: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
index e519186..20b9f3d 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.h: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (c) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/tests/xlconfigtest.c b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
index b1eb8a0..158d793 100644
--- a/tests/xlconfigtest.c
+++ b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
*
* Copyright (C) 2007, 2010-2011, 2014 Red Hat, Inc.
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
Frankly, I find theese lines useless. Git blame tells you who wrote
which lines of code. I'm no laywer, but the way I understand copyrights
in GPL projects is that it comes important only if project wants to
change the licence (e.g. to BSD). Then it has to have confirmation from
all copyright holders.
But problem with keeping copyright holders in files is that noone tracks
if they are still true. I mean, imagine somebody from company XYZ adding
a few lines to virsomething.c. They also add a copyright line into the
file. Later, when the code is reworked those lines are removed, but
noone will ever remove the copyright line and thus it's outdated.
Therefore, I think we should remove all copyright lines from all the
files and just trust git to be able to generate list of authors from
given state of repo.
Michal
5:09 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:08 PM Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On 2/21/19 7:44 PM, David Kiarie wrote:
> Signed-off-by: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
> ---
> src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c | 1 +
> src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h | 1 +
> tests/xlconfigtest.c | 1 +
> 3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
> index accfc3a..8029579 100644
> --- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
> +++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
> * xen_xl.c: Xen XL parsing functions
> *
> * Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
> + * Copyright (C) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
> *
> * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
> diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
> index e519186..20b9f3d 100644
> --- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
> +++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
> * xen_xl.h: Xen XL parsing functions
> *
> * Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
> + * Copyright (c) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
> *
> * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
> diff --git a/tests/xlconfigtest.c b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
> index b1eb8a0..158d793 100644
> --- a/tests/xlconfigtest.c
> +++ b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
> @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
> *
> * Copyright (C) 2007, 2010-2011, 2014 Red Hat, Inc.
> * Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
> + * Copyright (C) Kahurani Kiarie
> *
> * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
>
Frankly, I find theese lines useless. Git blame tells you who wrote
which lines of code. I'm no laywer, but the way I understand copyrights
in GPL projects is that it comes important only if project wants to
change the licence (e.g. to BSD). Then it has to have confirmation from
all copyright holders.
But problem with keeping copyright holders in files is that noone tracks
if they are still true. I mean, imagine somebody from company XYZ adding
a few lines to virsomething.c. They also add a copyright line into the
file. Later, when the code is reworked those lines are removed, but
noone will ever remove the copyright line and thus it's outdated.
Therefore, I think we should remove all copyright lines from all the
files and just trust git to be able to generate list of authors from
given state of repo.
exactly, that would fair.
Michal
5:22 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
Frankly, I find theese lines useless. Git blame tells you who wrote
> which lines of code. I'm no laywer, but the way I understand copyrights
> in GPL projects is that it comes important only if project wants to
> change the licence (e.g. to BSD). Then it has to have confirmation from
> all copyright holders.
>
> But problem with keeping copyright holders in files is that noone tracks
> if they are still true. I mean, imagine somebody from company XYZ adding
> a few lines to virsomething.c. They also add a copyright line into the
> file. Later, when the code is reworked those lines are removed, but
> noone will ever remove the copyright line and thus it's outdated.
>
> Therefore, I think we should remove all copyright lines from all the
> files and just trust git to be able to generate list of authors from
> given state of repo.
>
exactly, that would fair.
this is your concern for libvirt but, i am concerned about these three
specific files. we do have SuSE copyright notice on these files but i think
other parties might have done a lot more work on these files that SuSE ever
did. that is probably clear from git blame(or whatever people have been
directing me to towards).
it looks sensible that if these parties are not allowed to copyright the
code, SuSE copyright is not exactly valid on these files.
>
> Michal
>
6:47 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:07:54AM +0100, Michal Privoznik wrote:
Therefore, I think we should remove all copyright lines from all the
files
and just trust git to be able to generate list of authors from given state
of repo.
We can not do that. The copyright lines may only ever be altered by the
copyright holder. They are incomplete & potentiall misleading, but once
added they have legal significance.
Regards,
Daniel
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7:24 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:44:35PM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
Signed-off-by: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
---
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c | 1 +
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h | 1 +
tests/xlconfigtest.c | 1 +
3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
index accfc3a..8029579 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.c: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
index e519186..20b9f3d 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.h: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (c) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/tests/xlconfigtest.c b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
index b1eb8a0..158d793 100644
--- a/tests/xlconfigtest.c
+++ b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
*
* Copyright (C) 2007, 2010-2011, 2014 Red Hat, Inc.
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
This is fine, assuming you're still happy to have this version
committed - we don't want to re-visit this for a 3rd third.
Reviewed-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange(a)redhat.com>
Regards,
Daniel
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7:28 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
> *
> * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
This is fine, assuming you're still happy to have this version
committed - we don't want to re-visit this for a 3rd third.
i don't think you'll have to.
Reviewed-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange(a)redhat.com>
Regards,
Daniel
7:36 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] [PATCH 1/1] src/xenconfig: update copyright notice
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:44:35PM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
Signed-off-by: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
---
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c | 1 +
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h | 1 +
tests/xlconfigtest.c | 1 +
3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
index accfc3a..8029579 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.c
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.c: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
index e519186..20b9f3d 100644
--- a/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
+++ b/src/xenconfig/xen_xl.h
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
* xen_xl.h: Xen XL parsing functions
*
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (c) 2014 Kahurani Kiarie
*
* This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
* modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
diff --git a/tests/xlconfigtest.c b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
index b1eb8a0..158d793 100644
--- a/tests/xlconfigtest.c
+++ b/tests/xlconfigtest.c
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
*
* Copyright (C) 2007, 2010-2011, 2014 Red Hat, Inc.
* Copyright (c) 2015 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany.
+ * Copyright (C) Kahurani Kiarie
Oh whoops no date in there. Can you confirm that you want it to
say '2014', as the other lines do.
Regards,
Daniel
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3:50 p.m.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
participated in writing the code.
I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
from the files:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
And now lives in the repo as:
commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
Did you change your mind?
4:09 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
> updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
> participated in writing the code.
I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
from the files:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
And now lives in the repo as:
commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
Did you change your mind?
Moreover, you removed 'Author: Kiarie Kahurani' lines while you want to
add your name into a Copyright line now. Only SUSE was mentioned as the
copyright holder when you created the files. This makes me think you
might have contributed this as part of your contract with SUSE in which
case you are most likely not the copyright holder (even though you
didn't use a @suse.com email, but that's not rare some people just keep
using their personal email).
Jirka
4:42 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark <jdenemar(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
> > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
> > participated in writing the code.
>
> I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
> from the files:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
>
> Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
>
> And now lives in the repo as:
>
> commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
> Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
> Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
>
> xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
>
>
> Did you change your mind?
yes, i will actually share the copyright, if possible.
Moreover, you removed 'Author: Kiarie Kahurani' lines while you want to
add your name into a Copyright line now. Only SUSE was mentioned as the
copyright holder when you created the files. This makes me think you
might have contributed this as part of your contract with SUSE in which
case you are most likely not the copyright holder (even though you
didn't use a @suse.com email, but that's not rare some people just keep
using their personal email).
i did this as part of GSoC. there was no contract.
i think an email is personal enough that it shouldn't appear on copyright
notice just like i can't have my phone number on the copyright declaration.
Jirka
4:49 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:42 AM David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark <jdenemar(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> > > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
> > > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
> > > participated in writing the code.
> >
> > I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
> > from the files:
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
> >
> > Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
as you can see, this request was fulfilled within minutes, mostly because
Daniel is bitter that i tried to use a pseudonym on the code but he
strangely has nothing to say to say this time round.
> >
> > And now lives in the repo as:
> >
> > commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
> > Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
> >
> > xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
> >
> >
> > Did you change your mind?
>
yes, i will actually share the copyright, if possible.
>
> Moreover, you removed 'Author: Kiarie Kahurani' lines while you want to
> add your name into a Copyright line now. Only SUSE was mentioned as the
> copyright holder when you created the files. This makes me think you
> might have contributed this as part of your contract with SUSE in which
> case you are most likely not the copyright holder (even though you
> didn't use a @suse.com email, but that's not rare some people just keep
> using their personal email).
>
i did this as part of GSoC. there was no contract.
i think an email is personal enough that it shouldn't appear on copyright
notice just like i can't have my phone number on the copyright declaration.
>
> Jirka
>
5:16 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:49:57AM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:42 AM David Kiarie
<davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark <jdenemar(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
>> > > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
>> > > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
>> > > participated in writing the code.
>> >
>> > I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
>> > from the files:
>> >
>> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
>> >
>> > Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
>> >
>> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
>
>
as you can see, this request was fulfilled within minutes, mostly because
Daniel is bitter that i tried to use a pseudonym on the code but he
strangely has nothing to say to say this time round.
I think that any attempt to convert this conversation to personal matters
involving feelings and emotions is unacceptable on any kind of technical mailing
list both open source or closed source. I'm sure you can understand that people
have different working hours from different time zones and have many pressing
issues originating from dozens of mailing lists to focus on to keep our open
source mission rolling. We are very serious about open source (every project
should for that matter) and this *should* not become a playground arguing about
authorships.
Erik
5:18 p.m.
> as you can see, this request was fulfilled within minutes, mostly because
> Daniel is bitter that i tried to use a pseudonym on the code but he
> strangely has nothing to say to say this time round.
I think that any attempt to convert this conversation to personal matters
involving feelings and emotions is unacceptable on any kind of technical
mailing
list both open source or closed source. I'm sure you can understand that
people
have different working hours from different time zones and have many
pressing
issues originating from dozens of mailing lists to focus on to keep our
open
source mission rolling. We are very serious about open source (every
project
should for that matter) and this *should* not become a playground arguing
about
authorships.
i don't find anything exactly relevant to this issue in whatever you have
written.
Erik
6:55 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:49:57AM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:42 AM David Kiarie
<davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark <jdenemar(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
>> > > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
>> > > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
>> > > participated in writing the code.
>> >
>> > I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
>> > from the files:
>> >
>> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
>> >
>> > Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
>> >
>> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
>
>
as you can see, this request was fulfilled within minutes, mostly because
Daniel is bitter that i tried to use a pseudonym on the code but he
strangely has nothing to say to say this time round.
This is an inappropriate personal accusation. Please refrain from such
language.
The use of a pseudonym was rejected because it is the project's longterm
policy to not accept pseudonym, only real names.
Regards,
Daniel
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4:57 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:42:04 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark
<jdenemar(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> > > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
> > > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
> > > participated in writing the code.
> >
> > I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
> > from the files:
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
> >
> > Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
> >
> > And now lives in the repo as:
> >
> > commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
> > Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
> >
> > xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
> >
> >
> > Did you change your mind?
>
yes, i will actually share the copyright, if possible.
Given our previous experience I'm worried that you might change your
mind again.
I'd like you to pledge that it's your final decision and you will
not attempt to delete it again after some time.
> Moreover, you removed 'Author: Kiarie Kahurani' lines
while you want to
> add your name into a Copyright line now. Only SUSE was mentioned as the
> copyright holder when you created the files. This makes me think you
> might have contributed this as part of your contract with SUSE in which
> case you are most likely not the copyright holder (even though you
> didn't use a @suse.com email, but that's not rare some people just keep
> using their personal email).
>
i did this as part of GSoC. there was no contract.
I'm not entirely sure, but we might want to ask the SuSE folks whether
they agree.
i think an email is personal enough that it shouldn't appear on
copyright
notice just like i can't have my phone number on the copyright declaration.
As we've pointed out when you wanted to delete your name in the first
place, most of the people looking at the code will be able to figure out
the commit that added your name here and that commit does show your
e-mail address.
5:06 p.m.
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you change your mind?
> >
>
> yes, i will actually share the copyright, if possible.
Given our previous experience I'm worried that you might change your
mind again.
I'd like you to pledge that it's your final decision and you will
not attempt to delete it again after some time.
what previous experience? this is the second time we're discussing this
issue. this issue was never sorted in the very first place. i could also
claim that it doesn't look like you're up to solving the issue.
one year is not exactly "after some time".
> > Moreover, you removed 'Author: Kiarie Kahurani'
lines while you want to
> > add your name into a Copyright line now. Only SUSE was mentioned as the
> > copyright holder when you created the files. This makes me think you
> > might have contributed this as part of your contract with SUSE in which
> > case you are most likely not the copyright holder (even though you
> > didn't use a @suse.com email, but that's not rare some people just
keep
> > using their personal email).
> >
>
> i did this as part of GSoC. there was no contract.
I'm not entirely sure, but we might want to ask the SuSE folks whether
they agree.
i guess you can do that. my mentor was jim, he's around libvirt a lot.
> i think an email is personal enough that it shouldn't appear on copyright
> notice just like i can't have my phone number on the copyright
declaration.
As we've pointed out when you wanted to delete your name in the first
place, most of the people looking at the code will be able to figure out
the commit that added your name here and that commit does show your
e-mail address.
i'd say this is okay but i don't see the problem with me sharing the
copyright.
1:04 a.m.
On 2/22/19 2:06 AM, David Kiarie wrote:
> i did this as part of GSoC. there was no contract.
I'm not entirely sure, but we might want to ask the SuSE folks whether
they agree.
i guess you can do that. my mentor was jim, he's around libvirt a lot.
David is correct. There was no contract between him and SUSE. His work in the
xl<->xml converter was done under a broader GSoC project.
It sounds like the main grievance is the SUSE copyright in
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.{ch} and tests/xlconfigtest.c. I suppose that came by way
of copy-and-paste from other files. I'd be more than happy to send a patch
removing the SUSE copyright from those files if that will put closure to this issue.
Regards,
Jim
1:15 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:04 PM Jim Fehlig <jfehlig(a)suse.com> wrote:
On 2/22/19 2:06 AM, David Kiarie wrote:
> > i did this as part of GSoC. there was no contract.
>
> I'm not entirely sure, but we might want to ask the SuSE folks
whether
> they agree.
>
>
> i guess you can do that. my mentor was jim, he's around libvirt a lot.
David is correct. There was no contract between him and SUSE. His work in
the
xl<->xml converter was done under a broader GSoC project.
It sounds like the main grievance is the SUSE copyright in
src/xenconfig/xen_xl.{ch} and tests/xlconfigtest.c. I suppose that came by
way
of copy-and-paste from other files. I'd be more than happy to send a patch
removing the SUSE copyright from those files if that will put closure to
this issue.
issue long closed (or at least as far as i am concerned :-)) and anyways
removing SUSE copyright from the files wasn't the right solution to the
issue.
Regards,
Jim
7:02 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:42:04AM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark
<jdenemar(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> > > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files in
> > > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who hugely
> > > participated in writing the code.
> >
> > I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
> > from the files:
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
> >
> > Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
> >
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
> >
> > And now lives in the repo as:
> >
> > commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
> > Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
> >
> > xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
> >
> >
> > Did you change your mind?
>
yes, i will actually share the copyright, if possible.
Note that you already own the copyright on any code you contributed,
regardless of whether any Copyright line exists in the files. The only
way you loose coyright ownership is by explicitly assigning it to
another person / organization. This is why the majority of patches
never bother to add any copyright lines.
i think an email is personal enough that it shouldn't appear on
copyright
notice just like i can't have my phone number on the copyright declaration.
Your email is public regardless because every mail on this mailing list
is public, and every git commit to libvirt is public, and every release
of libvirt contains a AUTHORS file which includes every name + email
address. IOW your email address in the source header makes no difference,
it is already widely publicised.
Regards,
Daniel
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7:14 p.m.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 2:03 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:42:04AM +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jiri Denemark <jdenemar(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:50:55 +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:44:34 +0300, David Kiarie wrote:
> > > > it looks sensible that the copyright notice on the affected files
in
> > > > updated as in this patch so as to also cover another party who
hugely
> > > > participated in writing the code.
> > >
> > > I must point out that you specifically asked us to remove your name
> > > from the files:
> > >
> > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00382.html
> > >
> > > Which was fulfilled after the discussion in the thread above by:
> > >
> > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2018-May/msg00483.html
> > >
> > > And now lives in the repo as:
> > >
> > > commit d894e49292ae5135b6a9f44a634b5cfca4376f19
> > > Author: David Kiarie <davidkiarie4(a)gmail.com>
> > > Date: Tue May 8 15:40:00 2018 +0300
> > >
> > > xenconfig: remove my name and email from files
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you change your mind?
> >
>
> yes, i will actually share the copyright, if possible.
Note that you already own the copyright on any code you contributed,
regardless of whether any Copyright line exists in the files. The only
way you loose coyright ownership is by explicitly assigning it to
another person / organization. This is why the majority of patches
never bother to add any copyright lines.
the copyright notice you have on these files, especially the file xen_xl.c
does not respect other parties who participated in the writing the code.
> i think an email is personal enough that it shouldn't appear on copyright
> notice just like i can't have my phone number on the copyright
declaration.
Your email is public regardless because every mail on this mailing list
is public, and every git commit to libvirt is public, and every release
of libvirt contains a AUTHORS file which includes every name + email
address. IOW your email address in the source header makes no difference,
it is already widely publicised.
i do not want my email on the source header as someone grabbed it elsewhere
and it didn't end well.
i'd rather someone digs into the commits if they want my email, next time
not just finds an issue in a file, quickly grabs the email and directs the
complain to me.
Regards,
Daniel
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