12:43 a.m.
A few days ago I reported a bug with respect to console problems after the
<bootloader /> bug was 'solved'. Now the status of it did not change, nor
did anyone comment.
Any updates?
Stefan
4:48 a.m.
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 07:43:39AM +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote:
A few days ago I reported a bug with respect to console problems
after the
<bootloader /> bug was 'solved'. Now the status of it did not change, nor
did anyone comment.
Don't report new bugs in old bugzilla tickets. One bug report per ticket.
I posted a patch which related to Xen text console handling on monday
afternoon which may or may not be related - I can't tell with your rather
limited bug description of 'console problems'
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4:52 a.m.
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 07:43:39AM +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote:
> A few days ago I reported a bug with respect to console problems after the
> <bootloader /> bug was 'solved'. Now the status of it did not change,
nor
> did anyone comment.
Don't report new bugs in old bugzilla tickets. One bug report per ticket.
...and I opened a new one.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460812
I posted a patch which related to Xen text console handling on
monday
afternoon which may or may not be related - I can't tell with your rather
limited bug description of 'console problems'
I'll try to find it.
Stefan
12:45 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
Hi All,
A newbie question:
Does the libvirtd need to be running all the time if I want to use any
functions of libvirt (as simple as start/stop/pause my virtual machines
(qemu/zen)). Or is it only try if I use the remote functions or virsh.
Thanks,
-Yushu
8:02 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
Hi, Yao
You should differenciate Qemu and Xen(zen).
For QEMU, libvirtd need to run always.
For Xen, it does not requrired to run for local machine. and required to run for remote
machine.
Thanks
Atsushi SAKAI
Yushu Yao <yushuyaoyao(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
A newbie question:
Does the libvirtd need to be running all the time if I want to use any
functions of libvirt (as simple as start/stop/pause my virtual machines
(qemu/zen)). Or is it only try if I use the remote functions or virsh.
Thanks,
-Yushu
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8:08 p.m.
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You should differenciate Qemu and Xen(zen).
For QEMU, libvirtd need to run always.
For Xen, it does not requrired to run for local machine. and required to run for remote
machine.
Some people still have their hopes that libvirtd will do the same for
Xen in the near future :)
Stefan
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9:55 p.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
Thanks Atsushi and Stefan,
It seems that libvirtd has to run with root, is this true?
But why does libvirtd need to run for QEMU? If it's for start/stop/pause vm,
is Qemu's command line tool not enough?
Thanks!
-Yushu
On 9/3/08 6:08 PM, "Stefan de Konink" <skinkie(a)xs4all.nl> wrote:
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> You should differenciate Qemu and Xen(zen).
>
> For QEMU, libvirtd need to run always.
> For Xen, it does not requrired to run for local machine. and required to run
> for remote machine.
Some people still have their hopes that libvirtd will do the same for
Xen in the near future :)
Stefan
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12:20 a.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
Yushu Yao <yushuyaoyao(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Atsushi and Stefan,
It seems that libvirtd has to run with root, is this true?
Yes
But why does libvirtd need to run for QEMU? If it's for start/stop/pause vm,
is Qemu's command line tool not enough?
Please see follows
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00005.html
Thanks!
-Yushu
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> Atsushi SAKAI schreef:
>> You should differenciate Qemu and Xen(zen).
>>
>> For QEMU, libvirtd need to run always.
>> For Xen, it does not requrired to run for local machine. and required to run
>> for remote machine.
>
>
> Some people still have their hopes that libvirtd will do the same for
> Xen in the near future :)
>
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> Stefan
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1:59 a.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Yushu Yao wrote:
It seems that libvirtd has to run with root, is this true?
To make itself useful it should be root yes.
But why does libvirtd need to run for QEMU? If it's for
start/stop/pause vm,
is Qemu's command line tool not enough?
I presume it works by keeping reference to the domain, and is not able to
manipulate the domain if it does not own it... but this is a guess :)
Stefan
4:38 a.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 07:55:20PM -0700, Yushu Yao wrote:
Thanks Atsushi and Stefan,
It seems that libvirtd has to run with root, is this true?
Yes, because it has todo lots of privileged jobs, such as starting
QEMU with permissiong to use /dev/kvm, accessing disks and logical
volumes in /dev, creating TAP devices, creating bridge devices,
and much more. That said, if you were to chmod/chown all the devices
in question, you could run libvirtd unprivileged - it requires alot
of setup ahead of time though.
But why does libvirtd need to run for QEMU? If it's for
start/stop/pause vm,
is Qemu's command line tool not enough?
Libvirt does much more than just starting/stopping QEMU. It interacts
with its monitor console to control many aspects of it at runtime. It
also tracks state of running VMs to detect shutdown & cleanup, and
also manages storage, and networking state.
Daniel
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4:27 a.m.
New subject: [libvirt] Libvirtd needs to be always running/
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:45:41AM -0700, Yushu Yao wrote:
A newbie question:
Does the libvirtd need to be running all the time if I want to use any
functions of libvirt (as simple as start/stop/pause my virtual machines
(qemu/zen)). Or is it only try if I use the remote functions or virsh.
The answer is yes & no.
Libvirtd does *not* need to be running if you want to control the
local Xen hypervisor. In this case libvirt makes direct hypervisor
calls and/or uses a connection to xend to do its work.
It *is* needed for:
- remote access
- non-root access
- if you use the network or storage features
- managing QEMU and KVM instances
If libvirtd isn't running you will get a warning, but that can just be
ignored.
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