On 08/22/13 21:19, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
Il 22/08/2013 19:15, Laszlo Ersek ha scritto:
>> 2) On all versions, <on_crash> will only work if the element is there.
>
> I like this, because, if on_crash doesn't work without panic_notifier
> *at all*, then we can just drop panic_notifier, and make on_crash mean
> (on_crash && panic_notifier) in the original sense.
>
> IOW, drop "panic_notifier", and make "on_crash" work *always*.
No, we cannot because of backwards compatibility. VMs could have no
on_crash element (which means <on_crash>destroy</on_crash>) and yet the
guest admin could expect them to reboot on panic.
Ah. I thought "no on_crash" meant <on_crash>ignore</on_crash>, or
something like that -- if on_crash was absent, the guest wouldn't see a
working pvpanic device in ACPI, and wouldn't trigger the event in qemu.
>> 2b) QEMU will provide a way for libvirt to detect that no
machine type
>> has the builtin pvpanic. If some machine type may have the builtin
>> pvpanic, and <panic-notifier/> is absent, libvirt will add
>> "-global pvpanic.iobase=0" to neutralize it. Otherwise, libvirt
>> will create the device normally.
>>
>> A possible way for libvirt to detect "good" machine types is a
>> dummy property. This is a bit ugly in that the property would not
>> affect the behavior of the device. The property would remain in
>> the long term.
>>
>> Another possibility is for QEMU to rename the device, e.g. to
>> isa-pvpanic. This is also somewhat gross, but not visible in the
>> long term when the "pvpanic" name will be lost in history.
>>
>> Advantage 1: libvirt has no knowledge of the pvpanic port number
>>
>> Disadvantage 1: same as above
>>
>> Disadvantage 2: need a somewhat gross change in QEMU
>>
>>
>> This method also provides an (also somewhat gross on the QEMU side)
>> way to detect other changes in the pvpanic semantics. One example
>> mentioned below, is making the panicked state temporary.
>
> Too much work in qemu, in order to introduce ugliness, to hide older
> ugliness.
Is it too much work? s/"pvpanic"/"isa-pvpanic"?
... I probably skipped the rename option because you called it gross
(and maybe because I (erroneously?) recall Michael's opposition). I
think I meant the dummy property under "too much work" (it may not be,
in retrospect, but properties always imply compat stuff for me, and
*that* is scary).
Laszlo