I posted this RFC/patch set a few weeks ago but didn't receive any response. My implementation works, but I'd like to hear from anyone more familiar with libvirt concurrency than I (i.e. nearly everyone) about how it might be improved. In v2 I rebased against libvirt-0.7.7 and made a bunch of minor changes. - Using a bridge to connect a qemu NIC to a host interface offers a fair amount of flexibility to reconfigure the host without restarting the VM. For example, if the bridge connects host interface eth0 to the qemu tap0 interface, eth0 can be hot-removed and hot-plugged without affecting the VM. Similarly, if the bridge connects host VLAN interface vlan0 to the qemu tap0 interface, the admin can easily replace vlan0 with vlan1 without the VM noticing. Using the macvtap driver instead of a kernel bridge, the host interface is much more tightly tied to the VM. Qemu communicates with the macvtap interface through a file descriptor, and the macvtap interface is bound permanently to a specific host interface when it is first created. What's more, if the underlying host interface disappears, the macvtap interface vanishes along with it, leaving the VM holding a file descriptor for a deleted file. To avoid race conditions during system startup, I would like libvirt to allow starting up the VM with a NIC even if the underlying host interface doesn't yet exist, deferring creation of the macvtap interface (analogous to starting up the VM with a tap interface bound to an orphan bridge). To support adding and removing a host interface without restarting the VM, I would like libvirt to react to the (re)appearance of the underlying host interface, creating a new macvtap interface and passing the new fd to qemu to reconnect to the NIC. (It would also be nice if libvirt allowed the user to change which underlying host interface the qemu NIC is connected to. I'm ignoring this issue for now, except to note that implementing the above features should make this easier.) The libvirt API already supports domainAttachDevice and domainDetachDevice to add or remove an interface while the VM is running. In the qemu implementation, these commands add or remove the VM NIC device as well as reconfiguring the host side. This works only if the OS and application running in the VM can handle PCI hotplug and dynamically reconfigure its network. I would like to isolate the VM from changes to the host network setup, whether you use macvtap or a bridge. The changes I think are needed to implement this include: 1. Refactor qemudDomainAttachNetDevice/qemudDomainDetachNetDevice, which currently handle both backend (host) setup and adding/removing the VM NIC device; move the backend setup code into separate functions that can called separately without affecting VM devices. 2. Implement a thread or task that watches for changes to the underlying host interface for each configured macvtap interface, and reacts by invoking the appropriate backend setup code. 3. Change qemudBuildCommandLine to defer backend setup if qemu supports the necessary features for doing it later (e.g. the host_net_add monitor command). 4. Implement appropriate error handling and reporting, and any necessary changes to the configuration schema. The following patches are a partial implementation of the above as a proof of concept. Patch 1 implements change (1) above, moving the backend setup code to new functions qemudDomainConnectNetBackend/qemudDomainDisconnectNetBackend, and calling these functions from the existing qemudDomainAttachNetDevice/qemudDomainDetachNetDevice. I think this change is useful on its own: it breaks up two monster functions into more manageable pieces, and eliminates some code duplication (e.g. the try_remove clause at the end of qemudDomainAttachNetDevice). Patch 2 is a godawful hack roughly implementing changes (2) and (3) above (did I mention that this is a proof of concept?). It spawns a thread that simply tries reconnecting the backend of each macvtap interface once a second. As long as the interface is already up, the reconnection fails. If the macvtap interface goes away because the underlying host interface disappears, the reconnection fails until the host interface reappears. I ran into two major issues while implementing (2) and (3): - Can we use the existing virEvent functions to invoke the reconnection process, triggered either by a timer or by an event from the host? It seems like this ought to work, but it appears that communication between libvirt and the qemu monitor relies on an event, and since all events run in the same thread, there's no way for an event to call the monitor. - Should the reconnection process use udev or hal to get notifications, or leverage the node device code which itself uses udev or hal? Currently there doesn't appear to be a way to get notifications of changes to node devices; if there were, we'd still need to address the threading issue. If we use node devices, what changes to the configuration schema would be needed to associate a macvtap interface with the underlying node device? I'd appreciate input on item (4) as well (e.g. does it always make sense to ignore the missing host interface on the assumption that it could show up later?). --Ed