On 5/14/20 10:37 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 07:41:34PM +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 17:32 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:13:22PM +0200, Boris Fiuczynski wrote:
> > > > The behavior change would be
> > > > Current code:
> > > > uid=0 fid=0 -> uid=0 fid=0 -> address gets autogenerated
> > > > uid=0 fid=x -> uid=0 fid=x -> address is rejected as invalid
> > > > uid=0 -> uid=0 fid=0 -> address gets autogenerated
> > >
> > > IIUC, in the two cases here where the address gets auto-generated,
> > > the resulting guest VM successfully boots & runs....
> > >
> > > > With the series applied
> > > > uid=0 fid=0 -> uid=0 fid=0 -> address is rejected as invalid
> > > > uid=0 fid=x -> uid=0 fid=x -> address is rejected as invalid
> > > > uid=0 -> uid=0 fid=0 -> address is rejected as invalid
> > >
> > > ...so this proposed change is a functional regression for the
> > > user.
> > >
> > > > The documentation already specifies the uid value range correctly.
> > > > The fix for users hitting the two scenarios (uid=0 fid=0) and (uid=0)
is
> > > > simple: Remove the zpci definition completely.
> > >
> > > This would be taking a users' currently working VM, intentionally
> > > breaking it, and then making the user pick up the pieces. This is
> > > an example of a behaviour regression that libvirt promises to not
> > > do to users.
> >
> > The bit of nuance that might be missing here is that existing guests
> > already have a full zPCI address stored in the domain XML, which
> > means the wouldn't be affected in any way; additionally, the case
> > where no zPCI address is provided when defining a new guest, which I
> > assume is the most common one, will keep working.
> >
> > The only scenarios that would no longer work are:
> >
> > * the user manually specifies uid=0 fid=0;
> > * the user manually specifies uid=0 and doesn't specify fid.
> >
> > In both cases the user would have gone out of their way to specify
> > a value for the uid attribute that is documented as being invalid:
> >
> > PCI addresses for S390 guests will have a zpci child element, with
> > two attributes: uid (a hex value between 0x0001 and 0xffff [...]
> >
> >
https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsAddress
>
> The effect of specifying zero though is that we perform allocation
> to assign a non-zero address, which is then valid. The same happens
> with regular PCI devices if you give slot="0".
>
> > As a result, they'd now get a pretty clear error message at define
> > time instead of confusing behavior across the board. I'm not really
> > sure anyone would complain about such a change.
>
> I don't see this existing behaviour as confusing. It looks like mostly
> being a docs ommission about auto-allocation taking place.
Maybe I am repeating myself but I find e.g the below example confusing if I
take into consideration that uid=0 is NOT a valid value and fid is a valid
value. Please note that the valid fid is dislocated from its original
device!
Specify this in the domain:
pcidev1: uid='0x0000' fid='0x00000000'
pcidev2: uid='0x0000'
Results in a defined domain:
pcidev1: uid='0x0002' fid='0x00000001'
pcidev2: uid='0x0001' fid='0x00000000'
If the user would be tying to fix the dislocating fid... one would very
likely try this:
Specify this in the domain:
pcidev1: uid='0x0000' fid='0x00000000'
pcidev2: uid='0x0000' fid='0x00000001'
Result:
error: Failed to define domain from mini-pcis.xml
error: XML error: Invalid PCI address uid='0x0000', must be > 0x0000 and
<=
0xffff
Btw setting uid=0 is defined by architecture for a mode that we do not
support in qemu AND setting fid=0 is an architectural valid assignment which
in the example above is not granted to the device it was defined for.
Ok, that's the bit I didn't understand. I was assuming 0 was not a valid
number, but it is valid for a feature we don't currently use. Thus we
should be reporting usage as an error, such that we can implement correct
semantics at a later date if desired.
Regards,
Daniel
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