On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:00:31AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:48:47AM +0100, Martin Kletzander wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 02:58:21AM -0500, Laine Stump wrote:
> > On 01/09/2017 08:09 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 04:58:49PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > > For those who don't already know, GCC and CLang both implement a C
language
> > > > extension that enables automatic free'ing of resources when
variables go
> > > > out of scope. This is done by annotating the variable with the
"cleanup"
> > > > attribute, pointing to a function the compiler will wire up a call to
when
> > > > unwinding the stack. Since the annotation points to an arbitrary user
> > > > defined function, you're not limited to simple free() like
semantics. The
> > > > cleanup function could unlock a mutex, or decrement a reference count,
etc
> > > >
> > > > This annotation is used extensively by systemd, and libguestfs,
amongst
> > > > other projects. This obviously doesn't bring full garbage
collection to
> > > > C, but it does enable the code to be simplified. By removing the need
to
> > > > put in many free() (or equiv) calls to cleanup state, the
"interesting"
> > > > logic in the code stands out more, not being obscured by cleanup
calls
> > > > and goto jumps.
> > > >
> > > > I'm wondering what people think of making use of this in libvirt
?
> > > >
> > > > To my mind the only real reason to *not* use it, would be to maintain
> > > > code portability to non-GCC/non-CLang compilers. OS-X, *BSD and
*Linux
> > > > all use GCC or CLang or both, so its a non-issue there. So the only
place
> > > > this could cause pain is people building libvirt on Win32, who are
using
> > > > the Microsoft compilers instead og GCC.
> > > >
>
> Only reason I see for not using it is the "temporary" mess it will
> cause. Yes, we can change to that incrementally, but it will take some
> time and effort and it will never be all of the code that uses it.
> Don't get me wrong, I would love using more builtin compiler features
> and shortening the code here and there. I'm just worried this
> particular one might be more disrupting than useful. Most of us are
> pretty used to the code flow we already have and there's nothing you
> can't achieve without the cleanup attribute.
>
> And yes, I used quotation marks around the word temporary intentionally.
Yes, that's why I thought of it as something that would make for a GSoc
project - have someone do a full conversion of particular areas of code.
eg convert all of util/ or convert the domain XML parser, etc. Basically
if we did it, I think we'd want to have entire files converted at once.
Only converting individual methods ad-hoc would be quite messy.
Yes, I know, but that still doesn't mean all will be converted,
unfortunately.
> > > > IMHO, it is perfectly valid for us to declare that
MSVC is unsupported
> > > > with Libvirt and users must use GCC to build on Windows, either
natively
> > > > via cygwin, or cross-build from Linux hosts.
>
> I would love to know if anyone actually tried doing that lately. Given
> how often we are broken with mingw and we only foind out thanks to our
> test suite (and sometomes the fixing takes more than a release cycle), I
> think nobody does that and from what I know, it might not even work.
We have mingw in the CI system for a while now and its generally fixed
as quickly as native arch builds are fixed these days.
Yes. Now. But there was a build-breaker for several months that nobody
cared about. Pity the builds are truncated so I can't track it back
properly. My point is that I don't remember anyone asking about it
during the whole time, just us trying to come up with fixes.
> > > (2) You must not write code like:
> > >
> > > fn ()
> > > {
> > > CLEANUP_FREE char *v; // uninitialized
> > >
> > > if (some error condition) {
> > > return -1;
> > > }
> > > ...
> > > }
> > >
> > > because that will call free (v) on the uninitialized variable.
> > > Sometimes GCC can spot this. In libguestfs we tend to initialize
> > > every CLEANUP_* variable to either an explicit value or NULL. GCC
> > > optimizes away calls to free (NULL).
> >
>
> I'm trying to initialize all variables, always, so I don't see this as a
> problem, but there are some of us that (I have the feeling) are trying
> to initialize as few as possible, so this (although it's a different
> story) might still be a problem for someone.
We pretty much have the same problem already with 'goto cleanup' - you
have to make sure everything is initialized sanely before the first
"goto cleanup". So I think we're safe in this respect already and
the cleanup attributes wouldn't make it any more complex.
Yeah, but with __attribute__((cleanup)), you need to make sure
everything is properly initialized immediatelly as opposed to before
first cleanup. I know it sounds easy, and it is. And I love doing that
even without __attribute__((cleanup)), I just see the potential for
error. Hopefully we'd be able to do a syntax-check rule for checking
uninitialized variables with __attribute__((cleanup)).
> > You've covered one of the worries that I had about it
(accidentally
> > marking for CLEANUP a pointer whose value gets returned, and the fact
> > that you can't use it for the cleanup of objects that would have
> > normally been returned, in the case that the function encounters an
> > error and has to dump everything). And since the nice cleanup isn't
> > happening for *everything*, people will have to be paying attention to
> > which objects are auto-cleaned up and which aren't, which will
> > inevitably lead to incorrect classification and/or accidentally adding
> > manual cleanup for something that's auto-cleaned or vice versa. (and
> > merging this into the code bit by bit is going to exacerbate this
> > problem). Also, there is something to be said for having all the code
> > that's executed sitting out there in the open in an easy to follow
> > format rather than obscured behind a macro and a compiler directive that
> > points you up to somewhere else.
> >
>
> I don't really like our macros around __attribute__ although I
> understand we need to have some of them to be dynamically defined to
> nothing in some cases. However with __attribute__((cleanup)), we will
> need to have that all the time. What's even better, you immediatelly
> see what function will be called on the cleanup and you can jump to the
> tag definition more easily.
If we mandate use of gcc / clang, then we wouldn't need to hide it
behind a macro - we'd be able to use it inline. That said, using a
macro makes it smaller and gives a bit of standardization. eg with
libguestfs style:
#define CLEANUP_FREE __attribute__((cleanup(free)))
#define CLEANUP_OBJECT_UNREF __attribute__((cleanup(virObjectUnref)))
CLEANUP_FREE char *str;
CLEANUP_OBJECT_UNREF virDomainPtr dom;
vs full inline style:
__attribute__((cleanup(free))) char *str;
__attribute__((cleanup(virObjectUnref))) virDomainPtr dom;
I know, my point was that out of these two, I liked the latter better.
That said I see systemd took a halfway house
#define _cleanup_(x) __attribute__((cleanup(x)))
_cleanup(free) char *str;
_cleanup(virObjectUnref) virDomainPtr dom;
I think the systemd style is quite reasonable, as its shorter
and the function called is still clear.
Yes, this middle ground is perfectly reasonable, readable and
tags-searchable.