On 7/1/25 18:35, Daniel P. Berrangé via Devel wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 03:58:02PM +0200, Boris Fiuczynski wrote:
> > On 7/1/25 10:46, Daniel P. Berrangé via Devel wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:19:30PM -0400, Collin Walling wrote:
> > > > From: Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy(a)linux.ibm.com>
> > > >
> > > > Allow to define the default for deprecated_features when the
attribute
> > > > is not set in the cpu defintion of a domain XML. If these features
are
> > > > still desired, they may be reenabled via the
deprecated_features='on'
> > > > attribute.
> > > >
> > > > Some existing tests utilize this updated behavior, so update the CPU
> > > > features on the corresponding args files.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Fiuczynski <fiuczy(a)linux.ibm.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Collin Walling <walling(a)linux.ibm.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > src/qemu/libvirtd_qemu.aug | 3 ++
> > > > src/qemu/qemu.conf.in | 14 ++++++++
> > > > src/qemu/qemu_conf.c | 33
+++++++++++++++++++
> > > > src/qemu/qemu_conf.h | 12 +++++++
> > > > src/qemu/qemu_process.c | 26
++++++++++++++-
> > > > src/qemu/test_libvirtd_qemu.aug.in | 1 +
> > > > ...deprecated-features-none.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > ...default-video-type-s390x.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > ...vfio-zpci-ccw-memballoon.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > .../launch-security-s390-pv.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > ...t-cpu-kvm-ccw-virtio-4.2.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > .../s390-defaultconsole.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > .../s390-panic.s390x-latest.args | 2 +-
> > > > 13 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/src/qemu/libvirtd_qemu.aug b/src/qemu/libvirtd_qemu.aug
> > > > index e1e479d72c..2b674d258d 100644
> > > > --- a/src/qemu/libvirtd_qemu.aug
> > > > +++ b/src/qemu/libvirtd_qemu.aug
> > > > @@ -160,6 +160,8 @@ module Libvirtd_qemu =
> > > > let filesystem_entry = str_array_entry
"shared_filesystems"
> > > > + let default_cpu_deprecated_features = str_entry
"default_cpu_deprecated_features"
> > > > +
> > > > (* Entries that used to exist in the config which are now
> > > > * deleted. We keep on parsing them so we don't break
> > > > * ability to parse old configs after upgrade
> > > > @@ -192,6 +194,7 @@ module Libvirtd_qemu =
> > > > | capability_filters_entry
> > > > | storage_entry
> > > > | filesystem_entry
> > > > + | default_cpu_deprecated_features
> > > > | obsolete_entry
> > > > let comment = [ label "#comment" . del /#[ \t]*/
"# " . store /([^ \t\n][^\n]*)?/ . del /\n/ "\n" ]
> > > > diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu.conf.in b/src/qemu/qemu.conf.in
> > > > index 221bfa8095..368d929f78 100644
> > > > --- a/src/qemu/qemu.conf.in
> > > > +++ b/src/qemu/qemu.conf.in
> > > > @@ -1100,3 +1100,17 @@
> > > > # "/path/to/nvram",
> > > > # "/path/to/swtpm"
> > > > #]
> > > > +
> > > > +# If QEMU provides a list of deprecated CPU features it is possible
to use
> > > > +# this list for removal of deprecated CPU features during CPU model
expansion.
> > > > +# The deprecated_features XML attribute on the XML CPU element in
the domain
> > > > +# XML can be used to turn deprecated CPU features 'off' or
'on'. Using the
> > > > +# option default_cpu_deprecated_features allows to define the
default behavior
> > > > +# when the attribute deprecated_features is not provided in the
domain XML.
> > > > +#
> > > > +# Possible options are:
> > > > +# "off" - (default) deprecated features are removed
during CPU model expansion
> > > > +# "on" - deprecated features remain required in the
expanded CPU model
> > > > +# "none" - no deprecated_features attribute is added to
expanded CPU model
> > > > +#
> > > > +#default_cpu_deprecated_features = "off"
> > >
> > > Having a host level config parameter change the guest ABI seems like a
> > > bad idea to me. IMHO mgmt apps should be updated to use the XML to
request
> > > deprecated features are turned off by default.
> >
> > it has been some time but the idea originally is yours.
> >
https://lists.libvirt.org/archives/list/devel@lists.libvirt.org/message/M...
>
> Sigh, I'm disagreeing with myself from a year ago :-(
>
> In that comment I was talking about host CPU model, where it is slightly
> acceptable for the expansion to vary over time. What I failed to contemplate
> when I wrote that, was that this applies to all CPU modes, even the named
> CPU models.
>
> > The config parameter gives customers that still make use of the deprecated
> > features in most of there guests the option to bail out of the default
> > switch without having to edit all there guests. Of course they will give up
> > a migrate to a CPU generation which no longer supports the cpu features to
> > work out of the box.
> > The default is switched in this patch to use deprecated_features =
"off"
> > which disables all deprecated cpu features without using of the config
> > parameter.
>
> That change in defaults would effectively make the next libvirt version a
> regression compared to all previous versions, as CPU features would be
> disappearing, despite the guest config not changed meanwhile.
The default is only effective on s390x and if mode="host-model" is set.
So that matches what you talked about.
Oh sorry, I misread the patch in this respect. So no objection.
Should we also apply to host-passthrough though ? Or is that already
being filtered by the kernel ?
With regards,
Daniel
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