On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 03:37:22PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 02:01:42PM +0200, Martin Kletzander wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 09:28:52AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 03:44:12PM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote:
>> > > Right now in virt-manager we only track a VM's OS name (win10,
>> fedora28,
>> > > etc.) during the VM install phase. This piece of data is important
>> > > post-install though: if the user adds a new disk to the VM later,
>> we want to
>> > > be able to ask libosinfo about what devices the installed OS
>> supports, so we
>> > > can set optimal defaults, like enabling virtio.
>> > >
>> > > There isn't any standard libvirt XML field to track this kind of
>> info
>> > > though, so apps have to invent their own schema. nova and rhev do it
>> > > indirectly AFAICT. gnome-boxes does it directly with XML like this:
>> > >
>> > > <metadata>
>> > > <boxes:gnome-boxes
>>
xmlns:boxes="https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes">
>> > > <
os-id>http://fedoraproject.org/fedora/28</os-id>
>> > > ....
>> > > </boxes:gnome-boxes>
>> > > </metadata>
>> > >
>> > > I want to add something similar to virt-manager but it seems a
>> shame to
>> > > invent our own private schema for something that most non-trivial
>> virt apps
>> > > will want to know about. I was thinking a schema we could
>> document with
>> > > libosinfo, something like
>> > >
>> > > <metadata>
>> > > <libosinfo
>> > >
xmlns:libosinfo="http://libosinfo.org/xmlns/libvirt/domain/1.0"...
>> > > <
os-id>http://fedoraproject.org/fedora/28</os-id>
>> > > </libosinfo>
>> > > </metadata>
>> >
>> > Yes, I would like to see this standardized under <matadata>.
>> >
>>
>> Me too and what Cole suggested looks fine.
>
> It occurs to me that we actually need more than just the os-id value.
>
> When you query devices for a given OS, you'll often be told that multiple
> devices are compatible, and the mgmt app can decide which of them to then
> use.
>
> So if we want consistency when later hotplugging, we should make a record
> of which devices we decided to use too, so if the mgmt app changes its
> preference, we still know what we originally picked.
>
> eg to express that we use virtio-net and virtio-blk (even if virtio-scsi
> was supported by the OS):
>
> <metadata>
> <libosinfo
>
xmlns:libosinfo="http://libosinfo.org/xmlns/libvirt/domain/1.0"...
> <os
id="http://fedoraproject.org/fedora/28"/>
> <device
id="http://pcisig.com/pci/1af4/1000"/>
> <device
id="http://pcisig.com/pci/1af4/1001"/>
> </libosinfo>
> </metadata>
>
> Note, I'm suggesting using an 'id' attribute, rather than naming the
> element 'os-id', to be more closely aligned with osinfo schema.
>
I'm not against that <device id =''/> but it is going to take some
effort to
properly specify what is really meant by that. The fact that some
device model
was chosen for a particular device does not necessarily mean that it is
requested as the default. It only means what is actually encoded in the
XML
already, that is a particular model for a particular device.
Yeah I'm a bit confused by this as well, it's not exactly clear to me
how we would use or set XML like that for virt-manager, and how other
apps would be expected to consume it.
I'll start with the <os id=X/> bit and we can revisit the <device id=X/>
later
- Cole