Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha(a)redhat.com> writes:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:58:14AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:33:22AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:03:23AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > (added rjones from nbdkit fame -- hi there)
> >
> > [I'm happy to implement whatever you come up with, but I've added
> > Florian Weimer to CC who is part of Red Hat's product security group]
> >
> > > So I think the following would make sense to allow TLS in NBD.
> > >
> > > This would extend the newstyle negotiation by adding two options (i.e.,
> > > client requests), one server reply, and one server error as well as
> > > extend one existing reply, in the following manner:
> > >
> > > - The two new commands are NBD_OPT_PEEK_EXPORT and NBD_OPT_STARTTLS. The
> > > former would be used to verify if the server will do TLS for a given
> > > export:
> > >
> > > C: NBD_OPT_PEEK_EXPORT
> > > S: NBD_REP_SERVER, with an extra field after the export name
> > > containing flags that describe the export (R/O vs R/W state,
> > > whether TLS is allowed and/or required).
>
> IMHO the server should never provide *any* information about the exported
> volume(s) until the TLS layer has been fully setup. ie we shouldn't only
> think about the actual block data transfers, we should protect the entire
> NBD protocol even metadata related operations.
This makes sense.
Seconded.
TLS is about the transport, not about a particular NBD export. The
only
thing that should be communicated is STARTTLS.
Furthermore, STARTTLS is vulnerable to active attacks: if you can get
between the peers, you can make them fall back to unencrypted silently.
How do you plan to guard against that?
See also
https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/starttls_considered_harmful