hi Martin, thanks again for the feedback. maybe you have noted that I am not yet all too familiar with those tools. this is now sort of working for me. But I sense that you seem this method to be less then ideal. Reading through the virsh manual it looks like ... $ virsh snapshot-create [domain] --disk-only --live ... might be doing a similar thing. Maybe more elegant (pure virsh) and on a running machine what I can't qite figure out is where to squeeze in the name (or description, even) for the snapshot

On September 3, 2016 at 3:37 PM Martin Kletzander <mkletzan@redhat.com> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 03:07:37PM +0800, vrms@netcologne.de wrote:

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I take an internal snapshot (VM is 'shutdown' when taking it) of a qcow2 image like this:

$ qemu-img snapshot -c sn1 [my_image].qcow2

I see that snapshot when asking for:

$ qemu-img info [my_image].qcow

Firstly, you are doing this behind libvirt's back, so libvirt will most likely not know about that snapshot.

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but do NOT see it with:

$ virsh domblklist [my_domain]

Well, what would you expect to see there? Have a look at the man page, virsh(1) says:

domblklist domain [--inactive] [--details] Print a table showing the brief information of all block devices associated with domain. If --inactive is specified, query the block devices that will be used on the next boot, rather than those currently in use by a running domain. If --details is specified, disk type and device value will also be printed. Other contexts that require a block device name (such as domblkinfo or snapshot-create for disk snapshots) will accept either target or unique source names printed by this command.

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is that how it is meant to be?

Well, yeah (if the above is really what you wanted to run)...

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On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 06:45:55PM +0800, gunnar.wagner@netcologne.de wrote:

tried it (--live wasn't accepted, so I shut the VM down) and produced a snapshot

$ sudo virsh snapshot-delete [domain] [sn-id]

returns an error though

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error: Failed to delete snapshot [sn-id] error: unsupported configuration: deletion of 1 external disk snapshots not supported yet

so do I have to look into the block commit area to proceed here?

Deletion of external disk snapshots is not supported yet. There's nothing you did wrong, it's exactly what the message says.

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On September 3, 2016 at 6:28 PM vrms@netcologne.de wrote:

hi Martin,

thanks again for the feedback. maybe you have noted that I am not yet all too familiar with those tools.

this is now sort of working for me. But I sense that you seem this method to be less then ideal.

Don't get me wrong, it's OK not to be familiar with something. I also had to look up what each of those commands you sent do. I don't use snapshots very often, heck I used it like three times and already forgot everything. It's just that it looked to me like you haven't looked at some places where it's described (like man page ;) )

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Reading through the virsh manual it looks like ...

Great, you checked the man page ;)

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$ virsh snapshot-create [domain] --disk-only --live

... might be doing a similar thing. Maybe more elegant (pure virsh) and on a running machine what I can't qite figure out is where to squeeze in the name (or description, even) for the snapshot

If you read the whole thing, there's a parameter in which you can specify the whole XML of that snapshot. It's not straightforward or easy to do, but there you can specify the name, what disks should have snapshots and so on. If you look at the next command (or press <Tab> in the interactive mode twice) you'll see there's yet another command, snapshot-create-as, which is exactly what you want. It's the same thing, but it has parameters for bunch of things that you'd have to supply in the XML normally. That's the same thing as we have with vol-create(-as), it's a syntax sugar for users to have it easier. So what you want to do is (I guess): virsh snapshot-create-as $domain --name $snap_id --diskspec $vda,snapshot=internal And to list them you do: virsh snpashot-list $domain HTH, Martin

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On September 3, 2016 at 3:37 PM Martin Kletzander <mkletzan@redhat.com> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 03:07:37PM +0800, vrms@netcologne.de wrote:

...

I take an internal snapshot (VM is 'shutdown' when taking it) of a qcow2 image like this:

$ qemu-img snapshot -c sn1 [my_image].qcow2

I see that snapshot when asking for:

$ qemu-img info [my_image].qcow

Firstly, you are doing this behind libvirt's back, so libvirt will most likely not know about that snapshot.

...

but do NOT see it with:

$ virsh domblklist [my_domain]

Well, what would you expect to see there? Have a look at the man page, virsh(1) says:

domblklist domain [--inactive] [--details] Print a table showing the brief information of all block devices associated with domain. If --inactive is specified, query the block devices that will be used on the next boot, rather than those currently in use by a running domain. If --details is specified, disk type and device value will also be printed. Other contexts that require a block device name (such as domblkinfo or snapshot-create for disk snapshots) will accept either target or unique source names printed by this command.

...

is that how it is meant to be?

Well, yeah (if the above is really what you wanted to run)...

...

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