5:30 a.m.
Hi all,
I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor with
2Gb RAM.
Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you have 4
guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same time,
depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace when
this happens.
But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM, ubuntu 14.03.
During the installation the system will again crash.
The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the FreeMemory
goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense considering
the host will require some RAM to run.
But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
happening?
Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have enough
free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is not
enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just reading
the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a snapshot
- when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
later.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Andrei
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On 26.01.2016 12:30, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
Hi all,
I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor with
2Gb RAM.
Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you have 4
guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same time,
depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace when
this happens.
But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM, ubuntu 14.03.
During the installation the system will again crash.
The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the FreeMemory
goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense considering
the host will require some RAM to run.
But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
happening?
Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have enough
free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is not
enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just reading
the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a snapshot
- when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
later.
Any ideas?
There is one option I see, use -mem-prealloc. Either you can passthrough
it onto qemu commandline [1] or use locked memoryBacking [2]. I advocate
for the latter though. Not only it will allocate all the memory at qemu
startup it will also lock it so it won't get swapped off.
Michal
1: http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html#qemucommand
2: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsMemoryBacking
7:35 a.m.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On 26.01.2016 12:30, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor
with
> 2Gb RAM.
>
> Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you have 4
> guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same time,
> depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace
when
> this happens.
>
> But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM, ubuntu
14.03.
> During the installation the system will again crash.
> The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the FreeMemory
> goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense
considering
> the host will require some RAM to run.
>
> But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
> happening?
>
> Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have enough
> free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is
not
> enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just
reading
> the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a
snapshot
> - when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
> later.
>
> Any ideas?
There is one option I see, use -mem-prealloc. Either you can passthrough
it onto qemu commandline [1] or use locked memoryBacking [2]. I advocate
for the latter though. Not only it will allocate all the memory at qemu
startup it will also lock it so it won't get swapped off.
Michal
1: http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html#qemucommand
2: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsMemoryBacking
I tried memoryBacking: I added this to the domain xml:
<memoryBacking>
<locked/>
</memoryBacking>
And got an error when attempting to start the vm: memory locking no
supported by QEMU binary.
Aside from that I don't really understand how this helps solve my issue -
if you don't mind going a bit into details I'd appreciate it.
Thanks!
Andrei
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On 26.01.2016 14:35, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Michal Privoznik
<mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On 26.01.2016 12:30, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor
> with
>> 2Gb RAM.
>>
>> Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you have 4
>> guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same time,
>> depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace
> when
>> this happens.
>>
>> But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM, ubuntu
> 14.03.
>> During the installation the system will again crash.
>> The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the FreeMemory
>> goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense
> considering
>> the host will require some RAM to run.
>>
>> But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
>> happening?
>>
>> Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have enough
>> free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is
> not
>> enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just
> reading
>> the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a
> snapshot
>> - when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
>> later.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> There is one option I see, use -mem-prealloc. Either you can passthrough
> it onto qemu commandline [1] or use locked memoryBacking [2]. I advocate
> for the latter though. Not only it will allocate all the memory at qemu
> startup it will also lock it so it won't get swapped off.
>
> Michal
>
> 1: http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html#qemucommand
> 2: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsMemoryBacking
>
I tried memoryBacking: I added this to the domain xml:
<memoryBacking>
<locked/>
</memoryBacking>
And got an error when attempting to start the vm: memory locking no
supported by QEMU binary.
Aside from that I don't really understand how this helps solve my issue -
if you don't mind going a bit into details I'd appreciate it.
Well, it will make qemu to allocate all its memory on the start. So
either the allocation would be successful and domain will run or it
won't and qemu will die immediately.
On the other hand, your kernel is heavily broken too. Instead of
crashing at OOM it should kill a process (usually the one that's
consuming the most memory => qemu in this case).
Michal
8:01 a.m.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On 26.01.2016 14:35, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 26.01.2016 12:30, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor
>> with
>>> 2Gb RAM.
>>>
>>> Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you have
4
>>> guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same time,
>>> depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace
>> when
>>> this happens.
>>>
>>> But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM, ubuntu
>> 14.03.
>>> During the installation the system will again crash.
>>> The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the
FreeMemory
>>> goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense
>> considering
>>> the host will require some RAM to run.
>>>
>>> But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
>>> happening?
>>>
>>> Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have
enough
>>> free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is
>> not
>>> enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just
>> reading
>>> the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a
>> snapshot
>>> - when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
>>> later.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> There is one option I see, use -mem-prealloc. Either you can passthrough
>> it onto qemu commandline [1] or use locked memoryBacking [2]. I advocate
>> for the latter though. Not only it will allocate all the memory at qemu
>> startup it will also lock it so it won't get swapped off.
>>
>> Michal
>>
>> 1: http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html#qemucommand
>> 2: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsMemoryBacking
>>
>
> I tried memoryBacking: I added this to the domain xml:
> <memoryBacking>
> <locked/>
> </memoryBacking>
>
> And got an error when attempting to start the vm: memory locking no
> supported by QEMU binary.
>
> Aside from that I don't really understand how this helps solve my issue -
> if you don't mind going a bit into details I'd appreciate it.
>
Well, it will make qemu to allocate all its memory on the start. So
either the allocation would be successful and domain will run or it
won't and qemu will die immediately.
On the other hand, your kernel is heavily broken too. Instead of
crashing at OOM it should kill a process (usually the one that's
consuming the most memory => qemu in this case).
Michal
Sorry, I said crashing; I meant it spits out a kernel trace. You can still
use the system after it happens. I just want to prevent from happening in
the first place.
Andrei
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9:51 a.m.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Andrei Perietanu <
andrei.perietanu(a)klastelecom.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On 26.01.2016 14:35, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 26.01.2016 12:30, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor
> >> with
> >>> 2Gb RAM.
> >>>
> >>> Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you
> have 4
> >>> guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same
> time,
> >>> depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace
> >> when
> >>> this happens.
> >>>
> >>> But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM,
ubuntu
> >> 14.03.
> >>> During the installation the system will again crash.
> >>> The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the
> FreeMemory
> >>> goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense
> >> considering
> >>> the host will require some RAM to run.
> >>>
> >>> But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
> >>> happening?
> >>>
> >>> Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have
> enough
> >>> free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is
> >> not
> >>> enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just
> >> reading
> >>> the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a
> >> snapshot
> >>> - when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
> >>> later.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> There is one option I see, use -mem-prealloc. Either you can
> passthrough
> >> it onto qemu commandline [1] or use locked memoryBacking [2]. I
> advocate
> >> for the latter though. Not only it will allocate all the memory at qemu
> >> startup it will also lock it so it won't get swapped off.
> >>
> >> Michal
> >>
> >> 1: http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html#qemucommand
> >> 2: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsMemoryBacking
> >>
> >
> > I tried memoryBacking: I added this to the domain xml:
> > <memoryBacking>
> > <locked/>
> > </memoryBacking>
> >
> > And got an error when attempting to start the vm: memory locking no
> > supported by QEMU binary.
> >
> > Aside from that I don't really understand how this helps solve my issue
> -
> > if you don't mind going a bit into details I'd appreciate it.
> >
>
> Well, it will make qemu to allocate all its memory on the start. So
> either the allocation would be successful and domain will run or it
> won't and qemu will die immediately.
>
> On the other hand, your kernel is heavily broken too. Instead of
> crashing at OOM it should kill a process (usually the one that's
> consuming the most memory => qemu in this case).
>
> Michal
>
Sorry, I said crashing; I meant it spits out a kernel trace. You can still
use the system after it happens. I just want to prevent from happening in
the first place.
Andrei
In case it helps (maybe I didn't correctly diagnose the problem), this is
how the kernel trace looks like:
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371208] [<ffffffff81116389>]
__get_free_pages+0x9/0x38
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371161] [<ffffffff8184cfdb>] dump_stack+0x49/0x5e
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371203] [<ffffffff8114be30>]
alloc_pages_current+0xd1/0xda
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371299] [<ffffffff81005e35>]
kvm_vcpu_ioctl+0x12e/0x4b4
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371145] ffff88004b5078e8 ffff88004b507803
ffff880000000015 0000000000000001
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371169] [<ffffffff811124e7>] dump_header+0x6d/0x1d4
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371251] [<ffffffff8102fc55>] ?
vmx_invpcid_supported+0x1d/0x1d
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371239] [<ffffffff8102fc55>] ?
vmx_invpcid_supported+0x1d/0x1d
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371288] [<ffffffff8109ba1d>] ? set_task_cpu+0x63/0xb4
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371195] [<ffffffff811176f8>]
__alloc_pages_nodemask+0x6a0/0x812
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371312] [<ffffffff81096692>] ?
check_preempt_curr+0x41/0x6f
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371139] ffff880044d06600 ffff88004b507918
ffffffff811124e7 ffff88004b507a08
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371183] [<ffffffff8123db16>] ?
security_capable_noaudit+0x10/0x12
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371329] [<ffffffff81165cab>] SyS_ioctl+0x5b/0x7a
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371318] [<ffffffff81165c14>] do_vfs_ioctl+0x3e5/0x421
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371353] CPU 2: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371342] Node 0 DMA per-cpu:
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371306] [<ffffffff810964b7>] ? resched_curr+0x6e/0x70
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371274] [<ffffffff81016fdc>]
kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run+0xcbd/0xf59
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371245] [<ffffffff81033434>]
handle_ept_violation+0x13d/0x149
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371356] CPU 3: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371256] [<ffffffff81036ffc>]
vmx_handle_exit+0x80c/0x86f
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371335] [<ffffffff8184fff2>]
system_call_fastpath+0x12/0x17
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371369] CPU 2: hi: 186, btch: 31 usd: 0
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371380] active_file:56 inactive_file:40
isolated_file:0
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371175] [<ffffffff811128c4>]
oom_kill_process+0x77/0x328
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371339] Mem-Info:
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371346] CPU 0: hi: 0, btch: 1 usd: 0
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371389] Node 0 DMA free:7080kB min:44kB low:52kB
high:64kB active_anon:7232kB inactive_anon:4kB active_file:0kB
inactive_file:0kB unevictable:8kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB
present:15980kB managed:15892kB mlocked:0kB dirty:12kB writeback:4kB
mapped:0kB shmem:20kB slab_reclaimable:140kB slab_unreclaimable:112kB
kernel_stack:0kB pagetables:44kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB
writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? yes
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371400] lowmem_reserve[]: 0 1760 1760 1760
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371150] Call Trace:
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371406] Node 0 DMA32 free:5276kB min:5344kB
low:6680kB high:8016kB active_anon:1549604kB inactive_anon:88kB
active_file:224kB inactive_file:164kB unevictable:281088kB
isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB present:1956104kB managed:1907836kB
mlocked:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB mapped:18864kB shmem:300kB
slab_reclaimable:25736kB slab_unreclaimable:13268kB kernel_stack:1968kB
pagetables:4940kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB free_cma:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB
pages_scanned:2480 all_unreclaimable? yes
Message from syslogd@trx-r2 at Thu Jan 21 04:14:29 2010 ...
trx-r2 kernel: [ 6116.371293] [<ffffffff810153bd>] ?
kvm_arch_vcpu_load+0xb0/0x183
.......
Andrei
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10:22 a.m.
On 26.01.2016 15:01, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Michal Privoznik
<mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On 26.01.2016 14:35, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26.01.2016 12:30, Andrei Perietanu wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am running KVM on a 3.18 kernel. The system runs and Atom processor
>>> with
>>>> 2Gb RAM.
>>>>
>>>> Using KVM you obviously can over allocate your resources: say you have
> 4
>>>> guests each configured with 1GB ram. Running all four at the same time,
>>>> depending on the workload, can crash the system - I get a kernel trace
>>> when
>>>> this happens.
>>>>
>>>> But let's consider a simpler case: one guest with 1.5 Gb RAM, ubuntu
>>> 14.03.
>>>> During the installation the system will again crash.
>>>> The memory statistics (top or proc/meminfo) will show that the
> FreeMemory
>>>> goes down to 12Mb when this happens - which kind of makes sense
>>> considering
>>>> the host will require some RAM to run.
>>>>
>>>> But the question is: does libvirt offer any way to prevent this from
>>>> happening?
>>>>
>>>> Some way of not allowing the user to start a guest unless you have
> enough
>>>> free memory. I know how much ram each guest has configured but that is
>>> not
>>>> enough. I need to know how much the system has available, and just
>>> reading
>>>> the free memory statistic does not help much since that is only a
>>> snapshot
>>>> - when running a guest you can have 1gb free now, and 10 mb free 2 min
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> There is one option I see, use -mem-prealloc. Either you can passthrough
>>> it onto qemu commandline [1] or use locked memoryBacking [2]. I advocate
>>> for the latter though. Not only it will allocate all the memory at qemu
>>> startup it will also lock it so it won't get swapped off.
>>>
>>> Michal
>>>
>>> 1: http://libvirt.org/drvqemu.html#qemucommand
>>> 2: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsMemoryBacking
>>>
>>
>> I tried memoryBacking: I added this to the domain xml:
>> <memoryBacking>
>> <locked/>
>> </memoryBacking>
>>
>> And got an error when attempting to start the vm: memory locking no
>> supported by QEMU binary.
>>
>> Aside from that I don't really understand how this helps solve my issue -
>> if you don't mind going a bit into details I'd appreciate it.
>>
>
> Well, it will make qemu to allocate all its memory on the start. So
> either the allocation would be successful and domain will run or it
> won't and qemu will die immediately.
>
> On the other hand, your kernel is heavily broken too. Instead of
> crashing at OOM it should kill a process (usually the one that's
> consuming the most memory => qemu in this case).
>
> Michal
>
Sorry, I said crashing; I meant it spits out a kernel trace. You can still
use the system after it happens. I just want to prevent from happening in
the first place.
Well, then try the first one (passing -mem-prealloc onto qemu cmd line).
Also, you may want to turn off overcomit if you are unhappy with the
traces (turning it off will actually enable malloc to return NULL on OOM):
# echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_ratio
At this point I am gonna mention the obvious - don't give so much ram if
you don't have enough to give. For instance, give only 1GB, or use swap
so that unused tasks can be swapped out for a moment. Libvirt does not
actually have a mechanism to ensure you have enough memory on your host
to run a machine. It's host's kernel responsibility to deal with that.
Michal
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