[libvirt-users] domain not present after shutdown

I hope this is simple I have one kvm host that lists all my domains even after shut down. 'virsh list --all' shows machines in 'running' and 'shut off' states. If I copy those over to another machine and it only shows the virt machines in running state. vmhost2:~$ virsh list --all Id Name State ---------------------------------- 4 mybox4 running vmhost2:~$ virsh version Compiled against library: libvir 0.8.3 Using library: libvir 0.8.3 Using API: QEMU 0.8.3 Running hypervisor: QEMU 0.12.5 vmhost1:~$ virsh list --all Id Name State ---------------------------------- - mybox3 shut off 2 mybox4 running vmhost1:~$ virsh version Compiled against library: libvir 0.7.5 Using library: libvir 0.7.5 Using API: QEMU 0.7.5 Running hypervisor: QEMU 0.12.3 question -- why doesn't mybox3 show up on vmhost2? where should I start looking? hope this isn't too open ended...