Hi, I have to host (with KVM) an appliance which does not use its second and third NIC. They have to be present in the guest, but they'd better stay totally disconnected from anything in the host. "Second" and "third" apparently means bus order. Let's consider virtio devices only. I think the best technical solution is adding -device virtio-net-pci,addr=0x3 and similar options to the KVM command line, without any corresponding -netdev options (better ideas welcome). QEMU emits "Warning: nic virtio-net-pci.2 has no peer" messages, but that's expected. I can even do this much using the <qemu:commandline> element, but libvirt assigns the 0x3 address to other virtio devices, leading to collision. Is there a way to "reserve" a bus address for such manually added devices without assigning explicit addresses to all other devices in the configuration? Things I also tried (and found inadequate): * Using "generic ethernet connection" for the dummy NICs. Close, but requires extra permissions for accessing /dev/net/tun, and technically feels a little inferior to using a peerless network device like above. * TCP tunnel server. Even more inferior, does not require extra permissions but leaves even looser ends (listening sockets). Also, the RelaxNG grammal does not let me specify a model for this interface type, so maintaining bus order with respect to the virtio interfaces is impossible. A grammar bug? * Using a dummy VLAN in the bridge. This is what I temporarily settled for, but this requires global agreement and still technically inferior, so I'd like to move away. * A <network> without forwarding. Still inferior, and also requires configuration sharing across the host cluster. -- Thanks, Feri