Hi, I'd like to propose that we discuss guest agent convergence in our next KVM call. I've CC'd folks from oVirt and libvirt to join the discussion. I think we should probably attempt to have some structure to the discussion. I would suggest: 1. A short introduction to each of the guest agents, what guests they support, and what verbs they support.

2. A short description of key requirements from each party (oVirt, libvirt, QEMU) for a guest agent

3. An open discussion about possible ways to collaborate/converge. Regards, Anthony Liguori _______________________________________________ Arch mailing list Arch(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch

* Anthony Liguori (aliguori(a)us.ibm.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to propose that we discuss guest agent convergence in our next KVM > call. I've CC'd folks from oVirt and libvirt to join the discussion. > > I think we should probably attempt to have some structure to the discussion. > I would suggest: > > 1. A short introduction to each of the guest agents, what guests they > support, and what verbs they support. I think we did this once before w/ Matahari. Can we please capture these things in email before the call, so people actually have time to ponder the details. > 2. A short description of key requirements from each party (oVirt, libvirt, > QEMU) for a guest agent Same here...call this the abstract/intro of the above detailed list of verbs and guest support, and send it by Friday this week. I know there's plenty of details buried in the current thread and old discussions of Matahari. But that's just it...buried... > 3. An open discussion about possible ways to collaborate/converge. That should really help facilitate this item ;)

thanks, -chris

* Chris Wright (chrisw(a)redhat.com) wrote: > * Anthony Liguori (aliguori(a)us.ibm.com) wrote: >> 1. A short introduction to each of the guest agents, what guests they >> support, and what verbs they support. > > I think we did this once before w/ Matahari. Can we please capture > these things in email before the call, so people actually have time > to ponder the details. > >> 2. A short description of key requirements from each party (oVirt, libvirt, >> QEMU) for a guest agent > > Same here...call this the abstract/intro of the above detailed list of > verbs and guest support, and send it by Friday this week. > > I know there's plenty of details buried in the current thread and old > discussions of Matahari. But that's just it...buried... It's past Friday. Barak's links are all we have so far...

thanks, -chris

On 12/05/2011 01:21 PM, Chris Wright wrote: >* Chris Wright (chrisw(a)redhat.com) wrote: >>* Anthony Liguori (aliguori(a)us.ibm.com) wrote: >>>1. A short introduction to each of the guest agents, what guests they >>>support, and what verbs they support. >> >>I think we did this once before w/ Matahari. Can we please capture >>these things in email before the call, so people actually have time >>to ponder the details. >> >>>2. A short description of key requirements from each party (oVirt, libvirt, >>>QEMU) for a guest agent >> >>Same here...call this the abstract/intro of the above detailed list of >>verbs and guest support, and send it by Friday this week. >> >>I know there's plenty of details buried in the current thread and old >>discussions of Matahari. But that's just it...buried... > >It's past Friday. Barak's links are all we have so far... Sorry this slipped by me. However, Barak's link to the guest agent proposals: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Guest_agent_proposals is a summary of the recent discussion on guest agents for oVirt from the following thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.ovirt.vdsm.devel/93/focus=93 Requirements were posted there for oVirt (ovirt-guest-agent), QEMU (qemu-ga), and Spice (vdagent) and pulled into wiki, so as far as requirements go that is probably the best summary available at the moment. There is also summary of the current proposals for how to go about leveraging ovirt-guest-agent or qemu-ga for oVirt/QEMU requirements. Matahari was mentioned only in brief since it didn't come up much in that particular discussion, but feel free to add as a response to this email and I can add it to the wiki so we can start getting all this stuff in one place. But for brevity, a (slightly) higher-level summary would be: A. oVirt (currently using ovirt-guest-agent) 1) supported functionality: - protocol: JSON RPC over virtio-serial - verbs: lock screen, login/logoff (automatic/SSO on RHEL/Windows with plugins installed), shutdown - guest info: machine name, OS, packages, avail. RAM, logged in users, disk usage, networks interfaces - notifications: guest/agent up, heartbeat, user info, session lock/unlock/logoff/logon, agent uninstalled 2) key requirements: - first-class support for oVirt guest extensions - VM life-cycle assistance - single sign-on support for spice desktop sessions - monitoring and inventory - make VDSM management more robust/guest-aware 3) additional info: - http://www.ovirt.org/w/images/2/20/Ovirt-guest-agent.pdf - http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Ovirt_guest_agent B. QEMU (currently using qemu-ga): 1) supported functionality: - protocol: JSON RPC (QMP) over virtio-serial/"isa"-serial - verbs: ping, agent info, shutdown, file open/read/write/seek/flush/close, filesystem freeze, command exec (experimental, RFC this week) - guest info: arbitrary (via file read/command exec) - notifications: on hold till QMP/QAPI integration completed 2) key requirements: - first-class support for QEMU guest extensions (usable by device model, integrated into QMP, same repo (for lock-step versioning and hypervisor deployability via ISO or other host-initiated mechanism rather than guest distro support) - implement low-level primitives that QEMU can use, higher-level functionality built on top of the QMP interfaces it exposes. 3) additional info: - http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/QAPI/GuestAgent (might be down atm =/) C. Spice (vdagent): 1) supported functionality: - protocol: binary RPC over virtio-serial - verbs: set mouse state, monitor/display config, copy/paste 2) key requirements: - first-class support for Spice extensions (managing QXL devices/displays remotely, desktop integration (copy/paste, etc) - session-level guest agent 3) additional info: - http://spice-space.org/page/Whiteboard/AgentProtocol

Please feel free to add to this, and I'll roll it back into the wiki. > >thanks, >-chris > -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list