Hi all, I know that this is not a libvirt issue but this badly impacts libvirt usage. Is anyone aware of any status on this issue ? Daniel ? Here is some history I could get from the libvirt mailing list : * October 12, 2006 (Daniel Berrange). I've been trying to track down just why talking to XenD is resulting in so much CPU time being comsumed by both xend & xenstored. As a test case, I'm running 'virsh dominfo demo' which results in a single HTTP request to Xend to fetch domain info, eg 'GET /xend/domains/demo' Run this in a tight loop & I'll see xenstored taking > 50% CPU, and XenD taking another 11% PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2647 root 16 0 6188 840 464 R 52 0.0 0:55.04 xenstored 11600 root 18 0 259m 7568 1516 S 11 0.2 0:04.53 python Its not surprising that xend is consuming time since we are making many requests per second, but for an operation which is only doing reads it having so much time attributed to xenstored seems very excessive. So I ran oprofile & collected some data about xenstored: CPU: AMD64 processors, speed 2211.33 MHz (estimated) Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (Cycles outside of halt state) with a unit mask of 0x00 (No unit mask) count 100000 samples % image name symbol name 347226 45.9445 ext3 (no symbols) 264664 35.0200 jbd (no symbols) 31778 4.2048 libc-2.5.so memset 10763 1.4241 xenstored main 8884 1.1755 libc-2.5.so _int_malloc 7053 0.9332 libc-2.5.so vfprintf 4264 0.5642 xenstored initialize_set So almost 80% of xenstored's CPU time is attributed to ext3 & journalling modules, suggesting xenstored is doing alot of disk I/O. strace()'ing the xenstored process shows the only file it is opening is: # strace -p 2647 -e trace=open,rename,unlink Process 2647 attached - interrupt to quit open("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62aa80", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0640) = 13 open("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62aa80", O_RDWR) = 15 rename("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62aa80", "/var/lib/xenstored/tdb") = 0 unlink("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62aa80") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62b2b0", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0640) = 13 open("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62b2b0", O_RDWR) = 14 rename("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62b2b0", "/var/lib/xenstored/tdb") = 0 unlink("/var/lib/xenstored/tdb.0x62b2b0") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) ... So basically it is repeatedly copying its persistent TBD database over and over again. The TDB on this system is 128 KB in size and each individual HTTP GET on /xend/domain/demo is resulting in 16 copies being made. Do the maths - 128 * 16 == 2 MB of reads, and 2 MB of writes - for a single read in XenD. Now if I monitor the status of 20 domains, once per second that's causing 40 MB of writes & 40 MB of reads every second which is utterly ridiculous & completely non scalable for enterprise deployment :-( There's two problems I see here: 1. Why the need for xenstored to be doing any of this I/O in the first place? If the DB needs to be kept on disk at all, it really needs to have a much saner update/transactional model to only update bits which actually change, rather than re-creating the entire DB on every transaction. But it strikes me that the DB could potentially be kept entirely in memory removing the disk I/O completely. Sure yyou wouldn't be able to restart the daemon then, but even today you can't restart xenstored & expect things to still be working. 2. Why does XenD create sooo many transactions in XenStored for a read op ? Having instrumented Xend it sems that the root cause of the problem is the xen.xend.xenstore.xstransact class. This alllows one to start a transaction, do a bunch of reads/writes & then commit the transaction. At the same time though it has a bunch of static 'convenience' methods for read & write which will implicitly start & commit a transaction. Well 90% of the code in XenD seems to be using these 'convenience' methods instead of explicitly starting a transaction to cover a piece of work - the result is a simple GET causes 16 transactions ....and an 'xm create' results in 80 transactions. These convenience methods are utterly destroying performance. Clearly we can't address these for 3.0.3, but I think both of these areas need serious work in 3.0.4 if we want a scalable control plane in Dom0. Fixing the XenD bit looks particularly hard because any single method using the convenience xenstored read functions can be called under many different contexts, so of which needs transactions, others which don't. It ought to be possible to trace back all the calls & make it possible to pass explicit xstransct objects into all calls & then kill off the convenience methods. * Answer, same day (October 12, 2006) Yes, xenstored is very simple minded in many respects. We will certainly be improving this during 3.0.4 development -- I think we can get the costs down very significantly for commonplace operations without enormous effort. * Avril 25, 2007 (Daniel Berrange) http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2006-10/msg00487.html) No it isn't. The performance bug is actually at least x2 worse in Xen 3.0.4