[libvirt] input on F10 virtualization release notes

I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for Fedora 10 these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice. I added a lot of content quickly yesterday, and the page structure is by no means solid, but there is a pending freeze[2] on October 10th. I'd like to get it into the best and most accurate shape possible before then. There will be a chance to make updates again before the F10 release. I've attempted to describe the improvements to virtualization-related packages between the F9 release versions and the anticipated F10 versions. I've created a table[3] of those versions to help with the comparison. I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know: * if you believe a version bump is pending * if I've left out any packages or features * if I included something not noteworthy * anything else you have to say If you have any comments, contributions, or criticisms at all, please add them to the wiki article/talk page/or email them to me. Thanks! And keep up the great work! [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization [2] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DaleBewley#Virtualization_Release_Notes -- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for Fedora 10 these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice.
Very good summary of changes. I'm sure there will be a lot questions about (missing) dom0 support, so maybe add even more information about it. Xensource plans to have pv_ops dom0 support ready for Xen 3.4, so maybe add that information. http://www.xen.org/download/roadmap.html I think (at least earlier) the plan was to submit pv_ops dom0 patches for inclusion in Linux kernel 2.6.28. I'm not sure if that is still the plan. pv_ops/dom0 patch queue: http://xenbits.xen.org/paravirt_ops/patches.hg/
I've attempted to describe the improvements to virtualization-related packages between the F9 release versions and the anticipated F10 versions. I've created a table[3] of those versions to help with the comparison. I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know:
The table is really nice and gives nice overview of the changes made.
* if you believe a version bump is pending * if I've left out any packages or features * if I included something not noteworthy * anything else you have to say
If you have any comments, contributions, or criticisms at all, please add them to the wiki article/talk page/or email them to me.
-- Pasi

On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 06:11:03PM +0300, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for Fedora 10 these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice.
Very good summary of changes.
I'm sure there will be a lot questions about (missing) dom0 support, so maybe add even more information about it.
Xensource plans to have pv_ops dom0 support ready for Xen 3.4, so maybe add that information. http://www.xen.org/download/roadmap.html
I think (at least earlier) the plan was to submit pv_ops dom0 patches for inclusion in Linux kernel 2.6.28. I'm not sure if that is still the plan.
That's premature for Fedora 10 release notes. It'll be shipping Xen 3.3 and 2.6.27. Should be good for Fedora 11 though Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://ovirt.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:55:49AM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization [2] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DaleBewley#Virtualization_Release_Notes
Certainly looks good to me -- thanks for taking the time to do this. You might want to mention virt-df in there (see my signature). Although it has been backported to F-9, it is "new" in Fedora 10 because it didn't exist when F-9 started out. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:55 -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
I added a lot of content quickly yesterday, and the page structure is by no means solid, but there is a pending freeze[2] on October 10th.
The actual freeze for wiki content is today. The 10 Oct. deadline is for when Docs have to get the converted-to-XML content ready for translation. Sorry about any confusion on the schedule, things such as the labeling of tasks are a bit of a work in progress. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Community Gardener Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

Hi, According to the release notes kvm-65 is used. There is a maintenance branch that we keep for kvm. It is called maint/2.6.26. It is based on 2.6.26 for the kvm kernel module and +- kvm-68 for userspace Only bug fixes are applied on these branches so they aught to be relatively stable. So what about rebase fedora-10 kvm over them? Soon we'll branch a new one out of 2.6.28 kernel module and a matching userspace. Regards, Dor Dale Bewley wrote:
I've been working on the virtualization release notes[1] for Fedora 10 these past several days, and I'm looking for input from those in the know. The advances coming out of the Emerging Technologies projects and Fedora in general are very impressive, and I'd like to do them justice.
I added a lot of content quickly yesterday, and the page structure is by no means solid, but there is a pending freeze[2] on October 10th. I'd like to get it into the best and most accurate shape possible before then. There will be a chance to make updates again before the F10 release.
I've attempted to describe the improvements to virtualization-related packages between the F9 release versions and the anticipated F10 versions. I've created a table[3] of those versions to help with the comparison. I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know:
* if you believe a version bump is pending * if I've left out any packages or features * if I included something not noteworthy * anything else you have to say
If you have any comments, contributions, or criticisms at all, please add them to the wiki article/talk page/or email them to me.
Thanks! And keep up the great work!
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization [2] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DaleBewley#Virtualization_Release_Notes
-- Dale Bewley - Unix Administrator - Shields Library - UC Davis GPG: 0xB098A0F3 0D5A 9AEB 43F4 F84C 7EFD 1753 064D 2583 B098 A0F3
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On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:20:17AM +0200, Dor Laor wrote:
Hi,
According to the release notes kvm-65 is used. There is a maintenance branch that we keep for kvm. It is called maint/2.6.26. It is based on 2.6.26 for the kvm kernel module and +- kvm-68 for userspace Only bug fixes are applied on these branches so they aught to be relatively stable. So what about rebase fedora-10 kvm over them?
Opps, the release notes are incorrect wrt to Fedora 10 then. The latest KVM build is -74 for Fedora 10. The -65 release was what was in Fedora 9 repos. $ koji latest-pkg dist-f10 kvm Build Tag Built by ---------------------------------------- -------------------- ---------------- kvm-74-4.fc10 dist-f10 glommer $ koji latest-pkg dist-f9 kvm Build Tag Built by ---------------------------------------- -------------------- ---------------- kvm-65-1.fc9 dist-f9 katzj $ koji latest-pkg dist-f9-updates kvm Build Tag Built by ---------------------------------------- -------------------- ---------------- kvm-65-9.fc9 dist-f9-updates glommer Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://ovirt.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|
participants (6)
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Dale Bewley
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Daniel P. Berrange
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Dor Laor
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Karsten 'quaid' Wade
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Pasi Kärkkäinen
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Richard W.M. Jones