3:46 a.m.
Does anyone know what the current status of Linux VServer support is?
Last message I can find is a patch for it, which didn't make it into
libvirt:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2007-October/msg00273.html
Rich.
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4:23 a.m.
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 09:46:11AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Does anyone know what the current status of Linux VServer support is?
Last message I can find is a patch for it, which didn't make it into
libvirt:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2007-October/msg00273.html
Hum, right, but in the meantime lxc was added which is also a
(linux specific) container system, with the advantage of not requiring
a patched kernel (only a very recent one).
I have no idea if lxc and V-Server are competing or merging, I would
hope for the latter since they operate in the same space and the same
set of constraints (at least from my viewpoint).
Daniel
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4:22 a.m.
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:23:27AM -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 09:46:11AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what the current status of Linux VServer support is?
> Last message I can find is a patch for it, which didn't make it into
> libvirt:
>
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2007-October/msg00273.html
Hum, right, but in the meantime lxc was added which is also a
(linux specific) container system, with the advantage of not requiring
a patched kernel (only a very recent one).
I have no idea if lxc and V-Server are competing or merging, I would
hope for the latter since they operate in the same space and the same
set of constraints (at least from my viewpoint).
Thanks. I don't know much about this either. I was just asked by
someone from Debian about this. Apparently VServer is popular or
supported in Debian?
Rich.
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Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones
virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a
live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests.
http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v
7:28 a.m.
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:22:50AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:23:27AM -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 09:46:11AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the current status of Linux VServer support is?
> > Last message I can find is a patch for it, which didn't make it into
> > libvirt:
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2007-October/msg00273.html
>
> Hum, right, but in the meantime lxc was added which is also a
> (linux specific) container system, with the advantage of not requiring
> a patched kernel (only a very recent one).
> I have no idea if lxc and V-Server are competing or merging, I would
> hope for the latter since they operate in the same space and the same
> set of constraints (at least from my viewpoint).
Thanks. I don't know much about this either. I was just asked by
someone from Debian about this. Apparently VServer is popular or
supported in Debian?
I think we were supportive of the V-Server patch too. The discussion
was only about the XML format used.
In general adding support for new hypervisors in libvirt is a good
idea, this means less effort at the tool level. The most confusing seems
the small twaeks needed at the XML format to adapt to specifics of the
hypervisors/virtualization, but hopefully with the new format documentation
this should get clearer now,
Daniel
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Daniel Veillard | virtualization library http://libvirt.org/
veillard(a)redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/
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8:19 a.m.
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 08:28:27AM -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:22:50AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:23:27AM -0400, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 09:46:11AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the current status of Linux VServer support is?
> > > Last message I can find is a patch for it, which didn't make it into
> > > libvirt:
> > >
> > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2007-October/msg00273.html
> >
> > Hum, right, but in the meantime lxc was added which is also a
> > (linux specific) container system, with the advantage of not requiring
> > a patched kernel (only a very recent one).
> > I have no idea if lxc and V-Server are competing or merging, I would
> > hope for the latter since they operate in the same space and the same
> > set of constraints (at least from my viewpoint).
>
> Thanks. I don't know much about this either. I was just asked by
> someone from Debian about this. Apparently VServer is popular or
> supported in Debian?
I think we were supportive of the V-Server patch too. The discussion
was only about the XML format used.
In general adding support for new hypervisors in libvirt is a good
idea, this means less effort at the tool level. The most confusing seems
the small twaeks needed at the XML format to adapt to specifics of the
hypervisors/virtualization, but hopefully with the new format documentation
this should get clearer now,
Once we have the next release of libvirt out of the way, I want to tackle
the task of unifying all the XML parsers and XML generators. The storage
APIs have a single parser & generator for all the different backends. I
believe we can do the same for the domain XML and thus dramatically reduce
the amount of work required to add new drivers, as well as reducing the
amount of code we have to manitain & keep in sync.
Dan.
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