[libvirt] [PATCH] Finer grained migration control
Normally, when you migrate a domain from host A to host B, the domain on host A remains defined but shutoff and the domain on host B remains running but is a "transient". Add a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the original domain to be undefined on source host A, and a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the new domain to be persisted on the destination host B. Signed-off-by: Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com> --- include/libvirt/libvirt.h.in | 2 ++ src/libvirt.c | 4 ++++ src/qemu/qemu_driver.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- tools/virsh.c | 8 ++++++++ 4 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/include/libvirt/libvirt.h.in b/include/libvirt/libvirt.h.in index f51a565..6186d4e 100644 --- a/include/libvirt/libvirt.h.in +++ b/include/libvirt/libvirt.h.in @@ -339,6 +339,8 @@ typedef enum { VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE = (1 << 0), /* live migration */ VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER = (1 << 1), /* direct source -> dest host control channel */ VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED = (1 << 2), /* tunnel migration data over libvirtd connection */ + VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST = (1 << 3), /* persist the VM on the destination */ + VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE = (1 << 4), /* undefine the VM on the source */ } virDomainMigrateFlags; /* Domain migration. */ diff --git a/src/libvirt.c b/src/libvirt.c index b14942d..92a1eaa 100644 --- a/src/libvirt.c +++ b/src/libvirt.c @@ -3128,6 +3128,10 @@ virDomainMigrateDirect (virDomainPtr domain, * VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE Do not pause the VM during migration * VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER Direct connection between source & destination hosts * VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED Tunnel migration data over the libvirt RPC channel + * VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST If the migration is successful, persist the domain + * on the destination host. + * VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE If the migration is successful, undefine the + * domain on the source host. * * VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED requires that VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER be set. * Applications using the VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER flag will probably diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c index 3812f91..ba5694e 100644 --- a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c @@ -6848,7 +6848,8 @@ qemudDomainMigratePerform (virDomainPtr dom, event = virDomainEventNewFromObj(vm, VIR_DOMAIN_EVENT_STOPPED, VIR_DOMAIN_EVENT_STOPPED_MIGRATED); - if (!vm->persistent) { + if (!vm->persistent || (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE)) { + virDomainDeleteConfig(dom->conn, driver->configDir, driver->autostartDir, vm); virDomainRemoveInactive(&driver->domains, vm); vm = NULL; } @@ -6886,13 +6887,14 @@ qemudDomainMigrateFinish2 (virConnectPtr dconn, const char *cookie ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, int cookielen ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, const char *uri ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, - unsigned long flags ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, + unsigned long flags, int retcode) { struct qemud_driver *driver = dconn->privateData; virDomainObjPtr vm; virDomainPtr dom = NULL; virDomainEventPtr event = NULL; + int newVM = 1; qemuDriverLock(driver); vm = virDomainFindByName(&driver->domains, dname); @@ -6906,6 +6908,34 @@ qemudDomainMigrateFinish2 (virConnectPtr dconn, * object, but if no, clean up the empty qemu process. */ if (retcode == 0) { + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + if (vm->persistent) + newVM = 0; + vm->persistent = 1; + + if (virDomainSaveConfig(dconn, driver->configDir, vm->def) < 0) { + /* Hmpf. Migration was successful, but making it persistent + * was not. If we report successful, then when this domain + * shuts down, management tools are in for a surprise. On the + * other hand, if we report failure, then the management tools + * might try to restart the domain on the source side, even + * though the domain is actually running on the destination. + * Return a NULL dom pointer, and hope that this is a rare + * situation and management tools are smart. + */ + vm = NULL; + goto cleanup; + } + + event = virDomainEventNewFromObj(vm, + VIR_DOMAIN_EVENT_DEFINED, + newVM ? + VIR_DOMAIN_EVENT_DEFINED_ADDED : + VIR_DOMAIN_EVENT_DEFINED_UPDATED); + if (event) + qemuDomainEventQueue(driver, event); + + } dom = virGetDomain (dconn, vm->def->name, vm->def->uuid); /* run 'cont' on the destination, which allows migration on qemu diff --git a/tools/virsh.c b/tools/virsh.c index 46c5454..47122d5 100644 --- a/tools/virsh.c +++ b/tools/virsh.c @@ -2465,6 +2465,8 @@ static const vshCmdOptDef opts_migrate[] = { {"p2p", VSH_OT_BOOL, 0, gettext_noop("peer-2-peer migration")}, {"direct", VSH_OT_BOOL, 0, gettext_noop("direct migration")}, {"tunnelled", VSH_OT_BOOL, 0, gettext_noop("tunnelled migration")}, + {"persistent", VSH_OT_BOOL, 0, gettext_noop("persist VM on destination")}, + {"undefinesource", VSH_OT_BOOL, 0, gettext_noop("undefine VM on source")}, {"domain", VSH_OT_DATA, VSH_OFLAG_REQ, gettext_noop("domain name, id or uuid")}, {"desturi", VSH_OT_DATA, VSH_OFLAG_REQ, gettext_noop("connection URI of the destination host")}, {"migrateuri", VSH_OT_DATA, 0, gettext_noop("migration URI, usually can be omitted")}, @@ -2504,6 +2506,12 @@ cmdMigrate (vshControl *ctl, const vshCmd *cmd) if (vshCommandOptBool (cmd, "tunnelled")) flags |= VIR_MIGRATE_TUNNELLED; + if (vshCommandOptBool (cmd, "persistent")) + flags |= VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST; + + if (vshCommandOptBool (cmd, "undefinesource")) + flags |= VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE; + if ((flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PEER2PEER) || vshCommandOptBool (cmd, "direct")) { /* For peer2peer migration or direct migration we only expect one URI -- 1.6.0.6
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:26PM +0200, Chris Lalancette wrote:
Normally, when you migrate a domain from host A to host B, the domain on host A remains defined but shutoff and the domain on host B remains running but is a "transient". Add a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the original domain to be undefined on source host A, and a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the new domain to be persisted on the destination host B.
Signed-off-by: Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>
Sounds fine, this doesn't seems to impact the API or protocol format so I would rather wait after the 0.7.2 release to commit this though, hopefully tomorrow. ACK, Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ daniel@veillard.com | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ http://veillard.com/ | virtualization library http://libvirt.org/
Daniel Veillard wrote:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:26PM +0200, Chris Lalancette wrote:
Normally, when you migrate a domain from host A to host B, the domain on host A remains defined but shutoff and the domain on host B remains running but is a "transient". Add a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the original domain to be undefined on source host A, and a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the new domain to be persisted on the destination host B.
Signed-off-by: Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>
Sounds fine, this doesn't seems to impact the API or protocol format so I would rather wait after the 0.7.2 release to commit this though, hopefully tomorrow.
ACK,
It does impact the API in a small way by adding flags, but it is indeed a minor piece of functionality. I'll push it after 0.7.2 release (later this week or early next week). -- Chris Lalancette
Anno domini 2009 Daniel Veillard scripsit:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:26PM +0200, Chris Lalancette wrote:
Normally, when you migrate a domain from host A to host B, the domain on host A remains defined but shutoff and the domain on host B remains running but is a "transient". Add a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the original domain to be undefined on source host A, and a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the new domain to be persisted on the destination host B.
Signed-off-by: Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>
Thanks for the ground work! Attached you can find a patch implementing the same flags for Xen: * src/xen/xen_driver.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST flag * src/xen/xend_internal.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE flag I'm not totaly sure if there are better ways to handle all the error cases. The current solution seemed to be a same one for me. Ciao Max -- Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf für einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger.
Maximilian Wilhelm wrote:
Anno domini 2009 Daniel Veillard scripsit:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:26PM +0200, Chris Lalancette wrote:
Normally, when you migrate a domain from host A to host B, the domain on host A remains defined but shutoff and the domain on host B remains running but is a "transient". Add a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the original domain to be undefined on source host A, and a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the new domain to be persisted on the destination host B.
Signed-off-by: Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>
Thanks for the ground work!
Attached you can find a patch implementing the same flags for Xen:
* src/xen/xen_driver.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST flag * src/xen/xend_internal.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE flag
I'm not totaly sure if there are better ways to handle all the error cases. The current solution seemed to be a same one for me.
Well, I do think that we need to return a proper error in all cases except for the one with the long comment. I've pointed out where I think we need to add error messages below. Otherwise, I think it looks good.
diff --git a/src/xen/xen_driver.c b/src/xen/xen_driver.c index 5273a11..18882c0 100644 --- a/src/xen/xen_driver.c +++ b/src/xen/xen_driver.c @@ -1204,9 +1204,53 @@ xenUnifiedDomainMigrateFinish (virConnectPtr dconn, const char *cookie ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, int cookielen ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, const char *uri ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, - unsigned long flags ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED) + unsigned long flags) { - return xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + virDomainPtr dom = NULL; + char *domain_xml = NULL; + virDomainPtr dom_new = NULL; + + dom = xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + if (! dom) {
You are probably going to want to raise some error here, otherwise the user will get back "unknown error", which isn't very helpful.
+ return NULL; + } + + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + domain_xml = xenDaemonDomainDumpXML (dom, 0, NULL); + if (! domain_xml) { + goto failure; + }
This seems whitespace damaged (using tabs instead of spaces), and also needs to raise a proper error.
+ + dom_new = xenDaemonDomainDefineXML (dconn, domain_xml); + if (! dom_new) { + /* Hmpf. Migration was successful, but making it persistent + * was not. If we report successful, then when this domain + * shuts down, management tools are in for a surprise. On the + * other hand, if we report failure, then the management tools + * might try to restart the domain on the source side, even + * though the domain is actually running on the destination. + * Return a NULL dom pointer, and hope that this is a rare + * situation and management tools are smart. + */ + goto failure; + } + + /* Free additional reference added by Define */ + virDomainFree (dom_new); + } + + VIR_FREE (domain_xml); + + return dom; + + +failure: + virDomainFree (dom); + + VIR_FREE (domain_xml); + + return NULL; + }
static int diff --git a/src/xen/xend_internal.c b/src/xen/xend_internal.c index 27d215e..9fbb616 100644 --- a/src/xen/xend_internal.c +++ b/src/xen/xend_internal.c @@ -4386,6 +4386,8 @@ xenDaemonDomainMigratePerform (virDomainPtr domain, int ret; char *p, *hostname = NULL;
+ int undefined_source = 0; + /* Xen doesn't support renaming domains during migration. */ if (dname) { virXendError (conn, VIR_ERR_NO_SUPPORT, @@ -4404,11 +4406,25 @@ xenDaemonDomainMigratePerform (virDomainPtr domain, return -1; }
- /* Check the flags. */ + /* + * Check the flags. + */ if ((flags & VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE)) { strcpy (live, "1"); flags &= ~VIR_MIGRATE_LIVE; } + + /* Undefine the VM on the source host after migration ? */ + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE) { + undefined_source = 1; + flags &= ~VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE; + } + + /* Ignore the persist_dest flag here */ + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + flags &= ~VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST; + }
Again a nit, but I think the libvirt style currently is to leave braces off for single line statements. That is, this should be: if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) flags &= ~VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST;
+ /* XXX we could easily do tunnelled & peer2peer migration too if we want to. support these... */ if (flags != 0) { @@ -4494,6 +4510,10 @@ xenDaemonDomainMigratePerform (virDomainPtr domain, NULL); VIR_FREE (hostname);
+ if (ret == 0 && undefined_source) { + xenDaemonDomainUndefine (domain); + } +
Same here.
DEBUG0("migration done");
return ret;
-- Chris Lalancette
Anno domini 2009 Chris Lalancette scripsit: [...]
I'm not totaly sure if there are better ways to handle all the error cases. The current solution seemed to be a same one for me.
Well, I do think that we need to return a proper error in all cases except for the one with the long comment. I've pointed out where I think we need to add error messages below. Otherwise, I think it looks good.
Ok, will do.
+ dom = xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + if (! dom) {
You are probably going to want to raise some error here, otherwise the user will get back "unknown error", which isn't very helpful.
[...]
+ return NULL; + } + + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + domain_xml = xenDaemonDomainDumpXML (dom, 0, NULL); + if (! domain_xml) { + goto failure; + }
This seems whitespace damaged (using tabs instead of spaces), and also needs to raise a proper error.
[...]
+ /* Ignore the persist_dest flag here */ + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + flags &= ~VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST; + }
Again a nit, but I think the libvirt style currently is to leave braces off for single line statements. That is, this should be:
Sure, should have seem that. I will make up another patch and resend it. Ciao Max -- Träume nicht von Dein Leben: Lebe Deinen Traum!
Anno domini 2009 Chris Lalancette scripsit:
Attached you can find a patch implementing the same flags for Xen:
* src/xen/xen_driver.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST flag * src/xen/xend_internal.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE flag
I'm not totaly sure if there are better ways to handle all the error cases. The current solution seemed to be a same one for me.
Well, I do think that we need to return a proper error in all cases except for the one with the long comment. I've pointed out where I think we need to add error messages below. Otherwise, I think it looks good.
diff --git a/src/xen/xen_driver.c b/src/xen/xen_driver.c index 5273a11..18882c0 100644 --- a/src/xen/xen_driver.c +++ b/src/xen/xen_driver.c @@ -1204,9 +1204,53 @@ xenUnifiedDomainMigrateFinish (virConnectPtr dconn, const char *cookie ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, int cookielen ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, const char *uri ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, - unsigned long flags ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED) + unsigned long flags) { - return xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + virDomainPtr dom = NULL; + char *domain_xml = NULL; + virDomainPtr dom_new = NULL; + + dom = xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + if (! dom) {
You are probably going to want to raise some error here, otherwise the user will get back "unknown error", which isn't very helpful.
+ return NULL; + } + + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + domain_xml = xenDaemonDomainDumpXML (dom, 0, NULL); + if (! domain_xml) { + goto failure; + }
This seems whitespace damaged (using tabs instead of spaces), and also needs to raise a proper error.
+ dom_new = xenDaemonDomainDefineXML (dconn, domain_xml); + if (! dom_new) { + /* Hmpf. Migration was successful, but making it persistent + * was not. If we report successful, then when this domain + * shuts down, management tools are in for a surprise. On the + * other hand, if we report failure, then the management tools + * might try to restart the domain on the source side, even + * though the domain is actually running on the destination. + * Return a NULL dom pointer, and hope that this is a rare + * situation and management tools are smart. + */ + goto failure; + }
When thinking about the handling of these error cases, I think that they all are equal from a users/management tools point of view: The migration worked, but something in the process of making the new VM persistant failed. So if we raise an error here, we IMO should do in in all three cases or do it nowhere. What would be the additional win of telling the user, we failed to lookup the VM on the destination host (for whatever reason) or failed to dump the XML in contrast to not telling him the define went wrong? So the prefect solution would IMO be to raise some kind of FAILED_TO_MAKE_VM_PERSIST error which would indicate the situation clearly to the application above. Comments? Ciao Max -- Arroganz verkürzt fruchtlose Gespräche. -- Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 02:33:26AM +0200, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote:
Anno domini 2009 Chris Lalancette scripsit:
Attached you can find a patch implementing the same flags for Xen:
* src/xen/xen_driver.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST flag * src/xen/xend_internal.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE flag
I'm not totaly sure if there are better ways to handle all the error cases. The current solution seemed to be a same one for me.
Well, I do think that we need to return a proper error in all cases except for the one with the long comment. I've pointed out where I think we need to add error messages below. Otherwise, I think it looks good.
diff --git a/src/xen/xen_driver.c b/src/xen/xen_driver.c index 5273a11..18882c0 100644 --- a/src/xen/xen_driver.c +++ b/src/xen/xen_driver.c @@ -1204,9 +1204,53 @@ xenUnifiedDomainMigrateFinish (virConnectPtr dconn, const char *cookie ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, int cookielen ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, const char *uri ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED, - unsigned long flags ATTRIBUTE_UNUSED) + unsigned long flags) { - return xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + virDomainPtr dom = NULL; + char *domain_xml = NULL; + virDomainPtr dom_new = NULL; + + dom = xenUnifiedDomainLookupByName (dconn, dname); + if (! dom) {
You are probably going to want to raise some error here, otherwise the user will get back "unknown error", which isn't very helpful.
+ return NULL; + } + + if (flags & VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST) { + domain_xml = xenDaemonDomainDumpXML (dom, 0, NULL); + if (! domain_xml) { + goto failure; + }
This seems whitespace damaged (using tabs instead of spaces), and also needs to raise a proper error.
+ dom_new = xenDaemonDomainDefineXML (dconn, domain_xml); + if (! dom_new) { + /* Hmpf. Migration was successful, but making it persistent + * was not. If we report successful, then when this domain + * shuts down, management tools are in for a surprise. On the + * other hand, if we report failure, then the management tools + * might try to restart the domain on the source side, even + * though the domain is actually running on the destination. + * Return a NULL dom pointer, and hope that this is a rare + * situation and management tools are smart. + */ + goto failure; + }
When thinking about the handling of these error cases, I think that they all are equal from a users/management tools point of view: The migration worked, but something in the process of making the new VM persistant failed. So if we raise an error here, we IMO should do in in all three cases or do it nowhere.
What would be the additional win of telling the user, we failed to lookup the VM on the destination host (for whatever reason) or failed to dump the XML in contrast to not telling him the define went wrong?
So the prefect solution would IMO be to raise some kind of FAILED_TO_MAKE_VM_PERSIST error which would indicate the situation clearly to the application above.
Comments?
Yes adding a different error with a clear semantic so that the management code can understand the current situation and not assume the domain in still running on the source node sounds the right approach to me. We can't make this a completely atomic operation, so we need to deal with this ! Patch welcome :-) Thanks ! Any chance you could provide an updated patch for the Xen side independantly, or did I missed it ? Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ daniel@veillard.com | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ http://veillard.com/ | virtualization library http://libvirt.org/
Anno domini 2009 Daniel Veillard scripsit: [persistent migration for Xen]
Yes adding a different error with a clear semantic so that the management code can understand the current situation and not assume the domain in still running on the source node sounds the right approach to me. We can't make this a completely atomic operation, so we need to deal with this !
Patch welcome :-) Thanks !
So, after a bit of delay due to some private things, here we are.
Any chance you could provide an updated patch for the Xen side independantly, or did I missed it ?
I wanted to do it "right" on the first shot, therefore I didn't post an updated patch with my last mail. :) * src/xen/xen_driver.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST flag * src/xen/xend_internal.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE flag * include/libvirt/virterror.h, src/util/virterror.c: Add new errorcode VIR_ERR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_FAILED Ciao Max -- Arroganz verkürzt fruchtlose Gespräche. -- Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 03:26:15AM +0100, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote:
Anno domini 2009 Daniel Veillard scripsit:
[persistent migration for Xen]
Yes adding a different error with a clear semantic so that the management code can understand the current situation and not assume the domain in still running on the source node sounds the right approach to me. We can't make this a completely atomic operation, so we need to deal with this !
Patch welcome :-) Thanks !
So, after a bit of delay due to some private things, here we are.
Any chance you could provide an updated patch for the Xen side independantly, or did I missed it ?
I wanted to do it "right" on the first shot, therefore I didn't post an updated patch with my last mail. :)
* src/xen/xen_driver.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_DEST flag * src/xen/xend_internal.c: Add support for VIR_MIGRATE_UNDEFINE_SOURCE flag * include/libvirt/virterror.h, src/util/virterror.c: Add new errorcode VIR_ERR_MIGRATE_PERSIST_FAILED
Oops I newarly forgot that patch ! Looks fine, ACK, I just shortened the error message for the new error code a bit to fit on one line. Applied, thanks ! Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ daniel@veillard.com | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ http://veillard.com/ | virtualization library http://libvirt.org/
Daniel Veillard wrote:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:26PM +0200, Chris Lalancette wrote:
Normally, when you migrate a domain from host A to host B, the domain on host A remains defined but shutoff and the domain on host B remains running but is a "transient". Add a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the original domain to be undefined on source host A, and a new flag to virDomainMigrate() to allow the new domain to be persisted on the destination host B.
Signed-off-by: Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>
Sounds fine, this doesn't seems to impact the API or protocol format so I would rather wait after the 0.7.2 release to commit this though, hopefully tomorrow.
OK, now that 0.7.2 is out, I've pushed this. Thanks, -- Chris Lalancette
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