
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:43:14PM -0500, Ryan Harper wrote:
* Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com> [2010-10-21 12:10]:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:53:29AM -0500, Ryan Harper wrote:
* Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com> [2010-10-21 11:46]:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:50:35AM -0500, Ryan Harper wrote:
Currently libvirt doesn't confirm whether the guest has responded to the disk removal request. In some cases this can leave the guest with continued access to the device while the mgmt layer believes that it has been removed. With a recent qemu monitor command[1] we can deterministically revoke a guests access to the disk (on the QEMU side) to ensure no futher access is permitted.
This patch adds support for the drive_unplug() command and introduces it in the disk removal paths. There is some discussion to be had about how to handle the case where the guest is running in a QEMU without this command (and the fact that we currently don't have a way of detecting what monitor commands are available).
Basically we try to run the command and then catch the failure.
For QMP, we can check for a error with a class of 'CommandNotFound',
For HMP, QEMU will print 'unknown command' in the reply.
Neither is ideal, since neither is a guarenteed part of the monitor interface, but it is all we have to go on, and ensure other critical errors will still be treated as fatal by libvirt.
Yeah, this sorta already works without explictly catching the error (unless you want to display a different message at caller level than command not found).
This would cause the hot-unplug operation to completely terminate though, whereas we want it to carry on, if the command is not present. If we get a command-not-found, then we should syslog a warning, and then return '0' (ie success) to the caller of qemuMonitorDriveUnplug
Alternatively, return '+1' to the caller, and make the callers check for '+1', syslog it and treat it as non-fatal. This is closer to the approach we use for handling 'balloon device not present' error when code runs the 'info balloon' method.
My current implementation assumes that if you don't have a QEMU with this capability that we should fail the device removal. This is a strong statement around hotplug that isn't consistent with previous releases so I'm open to other approachs, but given the potential data leakage problem hot-remove can lead to without drive_unplug, I think it's the right thing to do.
I don't think we can do this, since it obviously breaks every single existing deployment out there. Users who have sVirt enabled will have a level of protection from the data leakage, so I don't think it is a severe problem.
Yeah, I was thinking we could re-work the logic to only completely fail in the case where the command wasn't found/successful *and* we don't have sVirt enabled.
I'm still wary of doing that because of the significant negative impact on existing deployments out there, even in the case where hotunplug would complete just fine. I think we'll just need to syslog the potential issue and people can upgrade their QMEU if they need the extra security
Thinking on this again; if we don't have a confirmation that the guest has removed the pci device (independent of whether we've revoked access to the underlying block device); then I really think we should fail the device removal; at the very least we cannot update libvirt state to indicate that the slot is free for re-assignment.
The trouble with this is that we'd be breaking 100% of hotunplug cases for old QEMU, even though only 1% of cases actually exhibit any problem in the real world. Accidentally trying to re-use a slot that isn't free is a fairly minor issue. I agree we need to deal with this properly long term, but I don't want to gratuitously break existing deployments yet. Once we have a plan for supporting this properly across libvirt+qemu, then we can re-evaluate whether we should be stricter for old qemu. I think we should focus the first patches on the task of supporting the new drive unplug command which has clear immediate benefit for everyone, and consider the slot re-use problem in future dev work. Regards, Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://deltacloud.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|