On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:47:26 +0000
Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 06:14:33PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 19:00:25 +0000
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:06:34AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > An issue here though is that the json will also
include the parent
> > > device, which we obviously cannot assume is the same (particularly the
> > > bus address) on the migration target. We can allow commandline
> > > overrides for the parent just as we do above for the UUID when defining
> > > the mdev device from json, but it's an open issue who is going to be
> > > smart enough (perhaps dumb enough) to claim this responsibility. It
> > > would be interesting to understand how libvirt handles other host
> > > specific information during migration, for instance if node or processor
> > > affinities are part of the VM XML, how is that translated to the
> > > target? I could imagine that we could introduce a simple "first
> > > available" placement in mdevctl, but maybe there should minimally be
a
> > > node allocation preference with optional enforcement (similar to
> > > numactl), or maybe something above libvirt needs to take this
> > > responsibility to prepare the target before we get ourselves into
> > > trouble.
> >
> > I don't think we need to solve placement in libvirt.
> >
> > The guest XML will just reference the mdev via a UUID that
> > was used with virNodeDeviceDefineXML.
> >
> > The virNodeDeviceDefineXML call where the mdev is first defined
> > will set the details of the mdev creation for this specific host.
> > The XML used with virNodeDeviceDefineXML can be different on the
> > source + target hosts. As long as the UUID is the same in both
> > hosts, the VM will associate with it correctly.
>
> I wonder how to sync up with different placements, but maybe I'm just
> missing something.
>
> Looking at this from the vfio-ccw angle, we can easily have the same
> device (as identified by the device number) on different subchannels
> (parents). To find out the device number, you need to look at the child
> ccw device of the subchannel while it is *not* bound to vfio-ccw, but
> to the normal I/O subchannel driver instead. Or ask your admin for the
> system definition...
This just means that whoever/whatever is invoking "virDomainDeviceDefinXML"
or "mdevctl create" will pass different parameters on each host. When
migrating a guest the mgmt app can indicate which device should be used
for the guest on each host. This is similar issue to migrating a guest
which uses a ethNNN device that's got different name on each host ,or
a /dev/sdNNN that's different on each host, etc
Ok, so the burden will be on a management layer resp. the admin to make
sure that the correct device is in place, even if it resides in
different places in the topology? Makes sense, I guess.