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From: Martin Kletzander [mailto:mkletzan@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:11 PM
To: Wang, Huaqiang <huaqiang.wang(a)intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [libvirt] [RFC PATCHv2 00/10] x86 RDT Cache Monitoring
Technology (CMT)
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 07:19:41AM +0000, Wang, Huaqiang wrote:
>Hi Martin,
>
>Thanks for your comments. Please see my reply inline.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Kletzander [mailto:mkletzan@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:27 PM
>> To: Wang, Huaqiang <huaqiang.wang(a)intel.com>
>> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com; Feng, Shaohe <shaohe.feng(a)intel.com>;
>> Niu, Bing <bing.niu(a)intel.com>; Ding, Jian-feng
>> <jian-feng.ding(a)intel.com>; Zang, Rui <rui.zang(a)intel.com>
>> Subject: Re: [libvirt] [RFC PATCHv2 00/10] x86 RDT Cache Monitoring
>> Technology (CMT)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:00:48PM +0800, Wang Huaqiang wrote:
>> >
>> >This is the V2 of RFC and the POC source code for introducing x86
>> >RDT CMT feature, thanks Martin Kletzander for his review and
>> >constructive suggestion for V1.
>> >
>> >This series is trying to provide the similar functions of the perf
>> >event based CMT, MBMT and MBML features in reporting cache
>> >occupancy, total memory bandwidth utilization and local memory
>> >bandwidth utilization information in livirt. Firstly we focus on cmt.
>> >
>> >x86 RDT Cache Monitoring Technology (CMT) provides a medthod to
>> >track the cache occupancy information per CPU thread. We are
>> >leveraging the implementation of kernel resctrl filesystem and
>> >create our patches on top of that.
>> >
>> >Describing the functionality from a high level:
>> >
>> >1. Extend the output of 'domstats' and report CMT inforamtion.
>> >
>> >Comparing with perf event based CMT implementation in libvirt, this
>> >series extends the output of command 'domstat' and reports cache
>> >occupancy information like these:
>> ><pre>
>> >[root@dl-c200 libvirt]# virsh domstats vm3 --cpu-resource
>> >Domain: 'vm3'
>> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_2.value=4415488
>> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_2.vcpus=2
>> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_1.value=7839744
>> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_1.vcpus=1
>> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.value=53796864
>> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.vcpus=0,3
>> ></pre>
>> >The vcpus have been arragned into three monitoring groups, these
>> >three groups cover vcpu 1, vcpu 2 and vcpus 0,3 respectively. Take
>> >an example, the 'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.value' reports the
>> >cache occupancy information for vcpu 0 and vcpu 3, the
>> 'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.vcpus'
>> >represents the vcpu group information.
>> >
>> >To address Martin's suggestion "beware as 1-4 is something else
than
>> >1,4 so you need to differentiate that.", the content of
'vcpus'
>> >(cpu.cacheoccupancy.<groupname>.vcpus=xxx) has been specially
>> >processed, if vcpus is a continous range, e.g. 0-2, then the output
>> >of cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0-2.vcpus will be like
>> >'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0-2.vcpus=0,1,2'
>> >instead of
>> >'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0-2.vcpus=0-2'.
>> >Please note that 'vcpus_0-2' is a name of this monitoring group,
>> >could be specified any other word from the XML configuration file or
>> >lively changed with the command introduced in following part.
>> >
>>
>> One small nit according to the naming (but it shouldn't block any
>> reviewers from reviewing, just keep this in mind for next version for
>> example) is that this is still inconsistent.
>
>OK. I'll try to use words such as 'cache', 'cpu resource' and
avoid
>using 'RDT', 'CMT'.
>
Oh, you misunderstood, I meant the naming in the domstats output =)
>The way domstats are structured when there is something like an
>> array could shed some light into this. What you suggested is really
>> kind of hard to parse (although looks better). What would you say to
something like this:
>>
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.count = 3
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.value=4415488
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.vcpus=2
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.name=vcpus_2
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.value=7839744
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.vcpus=1
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.name=vcpus_1
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.value=53796864
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.vcpus=0,3
>> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.name=0,3
>>
>
>Your arrangement looks more reasonable, thanks for your advice.
>However, as I mentioned in another email that I sent to libvirt-list
>hours ago, the kernel resctrl interface provides cache occupancy
>information for each cache block for every resource group.
>Maybe we need to expose the cache occupancy for each cache block.
>If you agree, we need to refine the 'domstats' output message, how
>about this:
>
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.count=3
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.name=vcpus_2
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.vcpus=2
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.block.count=2
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.block.0.bytes=5488
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.block.1. bytes =4410000
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.name=vcpus_1
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.vcpus=1
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.block.count=2
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.block.0. bytes =7839744
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.block.0. bytes =0
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.name=0,3
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.vcpus=0,3
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.block.count=2
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.block.0. bytes=53796864
> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.block.1. bytes=0
>
What do you mean by cache block? Is that (cache_size / granularity)? In that
case it looks fine, I guess (without putting too much thought into it).
No. 'cache block' that I mean is indexed with 'cache id', with the id
number
kept in '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cache/index*/id'.
Generally for a two socket server node, there are two sockets (with CPU
E5-2680 v4, for example) in system, and each socket has a L3 cache,
if resctrl monitoring group is created (/sys/fs/resctrl/p0, for example),
you can find the cache occupancy information for these two L3 cache
areas separately from file
/sys/fs/resctrl/p0/mon_data/mon_L3_00/llc_occupancy
and file
/sys/fs/resctrl/p0/mon_data/mon_L3_01/llc_occupancy
Cache information for individual socket is meaningful to detect performance
issues such as workload balancing...etc. We'd better expose these details to
libvirt users.
To my knowledge, I am using 'cache block' to describe the CPU cache
indexed with number found in '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cache/index*/id'.
I welcome suggestion on other kind of naming for it.
Martin