Re: [libvirt] [PATCH 00/17] Redo website layout and branding

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:41:41PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: I like the idea of updating the page. However I'm out of HTML/CSS/etc. stuff for a while, so I don't feel like doing technical review of the series. On the other hand it doesn't have to be perfect from the technical POV, so I think that unless there is something someone disagrees with, it's just about the design. This is a pity. But well, we can update the logo as well, why not. [warning: subjective opinions follow, don't take them personally] I don't like the new logo. Just a few things would make me feel better about it. a) if the "virtualization api" didn't make it ten times wider because it's not a logo anymore, it's more like a banner now. b) was that logo made small and then increased in size? The dark tone of "lib" together with the blurriness of it makes my eyes hurt. It's nice that it is in SVG, but I believe making it closer to the libvirtLogo.png [1] (even when keeping it crooked/tilted) would be way nicer to look at. This is good. I didn't like the font and particularly the inconsistency in font types in the old website. But looking at the front page, the font sizes for the three content boxes are different and I feel like that's way bigger inconsistency. The black text in "Introduction" is probably the same size as the green-ish link text in the other two, but the lines are so thin that even hinting and auto-aliasing doesn't help smoothing it out (on my display, maybe it's better on different ones). Yes!!! More space for the main content is nice, but using the whole width is not something you can see very often. I believe it's because it's way nicer to looking at, especially when you have short paragraphs that would otherwise span the whole width of the page just to be two lines long. That's the case after this series. Also the table on downloads page is nice, but other tables don't follow the same pattern. Plus they are on the side as well, e.g. acl.html [2] s/betworks/networks/ in docs/index.html.in and docs/docs.html.in. That copy-paste made me thinking whether we can re-use some of the content, but there's probably not much, you would've noticed that. Final thoughts: the things I mentioned above don't mean that I don't like it. I do, it's just that if we're trying to make it better, I feel like we can do it even better than that. For making lots of the content look better space- and consistency-wise, we could maybe use some patternfly/bootstrap even when it will be just for (mostly) static site. At least it looks like the cool kids do that nowadays ;) Anyway, that's the whole brain dump I had regarding this. Hopefully others will also push/pull some ideas around so we have a forward-moving discussion. Thanks, Martin [1] http://libvirt.org/libvirtLogo.png [2] https://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-new-website/acl.html