Re: Qemu block filter insertion/removal API

Am 17.05.2021 um 14:44 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben: > Hi all! > > I'd like to be sure that we know where we are going to. > > In blockdev-era where qemu user is aware about block nodes, all nodes have good names and controlled by user we can efficiently use block filters. > > We already have some useful filters: copy-on-read, throttling, compress. In my parallel series I make backup-top filter public and useful without backup block jobs. But now filters could be inserted only together with opening their child. We can specify filters in qemu cmdline, or filter can take place in the block node chain created by blockdev-add. > > Still, it would be good to insert/remove filters on demand. > > Currently we are going to use x-blockdev-reopen for this. Still it can't be used to insert a filter above root node (as x-blockdev-reopen can change only block node options and their children). In my series "[PATCH 00/21] block: publish backup-top filter" I propose (as Kevin suggested) to modify qom-set, so that it can set drive option of running device. That's not difficult, but it means that we have different scenario of inserting/removing filters: > > 1. filter above root node X: > > inserting: > > - do blockdev-add to add a filter (and specify X as its child) > - do qom-set to set new filter as a rood node instead of X > > removing > > - do qom-set to make X a root node again > - do blockdev-del to drop a filter > > 2. filter between two block nodes P and X. (For example, X is a backing child of P) > > inserting > > - do blockdev-add to add a filter (and specify X as its child) > - do blockdev-reopen to set P.backing = filter > > remvoing > > - do blockdev-reopen to set P.backing = X > - do blockdev-del to drop a filter > > > And, probably we'll want transaction support for all these things. > > > Is it OK? Or do we need some kind of additional blockdev-replace command, that can replace one node by another, so in both cases we will do > > inserting: > - blockdev-add filter > - blockdev-replace (make all parents of X to point to the new filter instead (except for the filter itself of course) > > removing > - blockdev-replace (make all parante of filter to be parents of X instead) > - blockdev-del filter > > It's simple to implement, and it seems for me that it is simpler to use. Any thoughts? One reason I remember why we didn't decide to go this way in the many "dynamic graph reconfiguration" discussions we had, is that it's not generic enough to cover all cases. But I'm not sure if we ever considered root nodes as a separate case. I acknowledge that having two different interfaces is inconvenient, and integrating qom-set in a transaction is rather unlikely to happen. The reason why it's not generic is that it restricts you to doing the same thing for all parents. Imagine this: +- virtio-blk | file <- qcow2 <-+ | +- NBD export Now you want to throttle the NBD export so that it doesn't interfere with your VM too much. With your simple blockdev-replace this isn't possible. You would have to add the filter to both users or to none. In theory, blockdev-replace could take a list of the edges that should be changed to the new node. The problem is that edges don't have names, and even the parents don't necessarily have one (and if they do, they are in separate namespaces, so a BlockBackend, a job and an export could all have the same name), so finding a good way to refer to them in QMP doesn't sound trivial.