On Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 02:16:58PM +0200, Peter Krempa wrote:
On Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 13:29:28 +0200, Anthony Harivel wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé, Sep 03, 2024 at 12:08:
> > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 03:09:42PM +0200, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 17:59:47 +0200, Anthony Harivel wrote:
> > > > Add the support in libvirt to activate the RAPL feature in QEMU.
> > > I suppose that the 'rapl-helper-socket' is a shared (multiple
qemu's use
> > > it) resource set up beforehand by the admin. Right?
> >
> > The qemu-pr-helper could be run as a single instnce, or it could be
> > run per-QEMU instance. The latter would give us better security
> > isolation, for what is a privileged daemon. On the other hand, I
> > wonder about the CPU overhead of having 100's of copies of the
> > process running on a host.
So when I was originally skimming trhough the docs I didn't properly
understand that the reason for the helper daemon is that there was a
security issue with accessing the measurement counters and thought it
was strictly for performance reasons.
Yep, this is only for security reasons.
> If it runs on a single instance, then the socket needs to be
chmod/chown
> to something like qemu / libvirt group with access only to root and
> group.
Another alternative for a shared instance to be used by multiple qemu
instances is that libvirt can open the socket and pass it to qemu, which
avoids the potential issue at-least with DAC security labels as the
socket can be owned by root:root with mode 600.
I'm not sure how the selinux policy for that daemon looks though.
I don't believe any policy exists yet, since this is a brand new
service.
> Running one helper instance per-QEMU instance would mean that
every
> instance read 1 MSR / Package every second. The socket is left open
> (thanks to Daniel suggestion in QEMU review). The impact would be quite
> low I guess on the housekeeping CPU.
>
> When I designed the daemon with Paolo, the first solution was the main
> idea but I'm open to any solution that leads to a better adoption of the
> feature.
Libvirt can obviously manage also a per VM instance, which should be
straightforward, but not as simple as this patch. This can theoretically
also be added later, e.g. by adding a 'managed' property enabling the
libvirt-managed daemon.
A parallel would be the qemu-pr-helper which this new service was initially
derived from in terms of archicture. It also runs privileged for security
reasons and can be single shared instance, or per-VM instance.
With regards,
Daniel
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