On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:41:38 +0000
Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 07:28:45PM +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 19:20:58 +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:35:19 +0100
> > Peter Krempa <pkrempa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:29:58 +0100, Michal Privoznik wrote:
> > > > On 1/12/21 12:19 PM, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 09:29:49 +0100, Michal Privoznik wrote:
> > > > > > This capability tracks whether memory-backend-file has
> > > > > > "x-use-canonical-path-for-ramblock-id" attribute.
Introduced into
> > > > > > QEMU by commit v4.0.0-rc0~189^2. While "x-"
prefix is considered
> > > > >
> > > > > Please use a commit hash instead of this.
> > > > >
> > > > > > experimental or internal to QEMU, the next commit justifies
its
> > > > > > use.
> > > > >
> > > > > NACK unless qemu adds a statement to their code and
documentation that
> > > > > the this property is considered stable despite the
'x-prefix' and you
> > > > > add a link to the appropriate qemu upstream commit once it's
done.
> > > > >
> > > > > We don't want to depend on experimental stuff so we need a
strong
> > > > > excuse.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's done in the next commit. Do you want me to copy it here
too? I
> > > > figured I'd put the justification where I'm actually setting
the internal
> > > > knob.
> > >
> > > Yes, because this is also mentioning the an 'x-' prefixed
property. I
> > > want to be absolutely clear in any places (including a comment in the
> > > code, which you also should add into the capability code) that this is
> > > extraordinary circumstance and that qemu is actually considering that
> > > property stable.
> >
> > the only reason to keep x- prefix in this case is to cause less issues for
> > downstream QEMUs. Since this compat property is copied to their own machine
types.
> > If we keep prefix downstream doesn't have to do anything, if we rename it,
> > then downstreams have to carry a separate patch that does the same for
> > their old machine types.
>
> That would be okay if it's limited to past versions, but in this
> instance it is not. Allowing x-prefixed properties for any future
> release is a dangerous precedent. If we want to allow to detect the
> capability also for future release, we must declare that it's for a very
> particular reason and also that qemu will not delete it at will.
>
> This is to prevent any future discussions of unwaranted usage of
> x-prefixed properties in libvirt.
Yeah it is pretty dubious on the QEMU side to have used an "x-" prefix
here at all, when use of this option is mandatory to make migration
work :-(
if generic consensus is to drop prefix, I can post a QEMU patch to do so
and let downstream(s) to carry burden.
Regards,
Daniel