On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 11:28:54AM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
Hi Zhijian,
On 29/3/24 02:53, Zhijian Li (Fujitsu) wrote:
>
>
> On 28/03/2024 23:01, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:18:04AM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
> > > Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd(a)linaro.org> writes:
> > >
> > > > The whole RDMA subsystem was deprecated in commit e9a54265f5
> > > > ("hw/rdma: Deprecate the pvrdma device and the rdma
subsystem")
> > > > released in v8.2.
> > > >
> > > > Remove:
> > > > - RDMA handling from migration
> > > > - dependencies on libibumad, libibverbs and librdmacm
> > > >
> > > > Keep the RAM_SAVE_FLAG_HOOK definition since it might appears
> > > > in old migration streams.
> > > >
> > > > Cc: Peter Xu <peterx(a)redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: Li Zhijian <lizhijian(a)fujitsu.com>
> > > > Acked-by: Fabiano Rosas <farosas(a)suse.de>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd(a)linaro.org>
> > >
> > > Just to be clear, because people raised the point in the last version,
> > > the first link in the deprecation commit links to a thread comprising
> > > entirely of rdma migration patches. I don't see any ambiguity on
whether
> > > the deprecation was intended to include migration. There's even an
ack
> > > from Juan.
> >
> > Yes I remember that's the plan.
> >
> > >
> > > So on the basis of not reverting the previous maintainer's decision,
my
> > > Ack stands here.
> > >
> > > We also had pretty obvious bugs ([1], [2]) in the past that would have
> > > been caught if we had any kind of testing for the feature, so I can't
> > > even say this thing works currently.
> > >
> > > @Peter Xu, @Li Zhijian, what are your thoughts on this?
> >
> > Generally I definitely agree with such a removal sooner or later, as
that's
> > how deprecation works, and even after Juan's left I'm not aware of any
> > other new RDMA users. Personally, I'd slightly prefer postponing it one
> > more release which might help a bit of our downstream maintenance, however
> > I assume that's not a blocker either, as I think we can also manage it.
> >
> > IMHO it's more important to know whether there are still users and whether
> > they would still like to see it around. That's also one thing I notice
that
> > e9a54265f533f didn't yet get acks from RDMA users that we are aware, even
> > if they're rare. According to [2] it could be that such user may only rely
> > on the release versions of QEMU when it broke things.
> >
> > So I'm copying Yu too (while Zhijian is already in the loop), just in case
> > someone would like to stand up and speak.
>
>
> I admit RDMA migration was lack of testing(unit/CI test), which led to the a few
> obvious bugs being noticed too late.
> However I was a bit surprised when I saw the removal of the RDMA migration. I
wasn't
> aware that this feature has not been marked as deprecated(at least there is no
> prompt to end-user).
>
>
> > IMHO it's more important to know whether there are still users and whether
> > they would still like to see it around.
>
> Agree.
> I didn't immediately express my opinion in V1 because I'm also consulting
our
> customers for this feature in the future.
>
> Personally, I agree with Perter's idea that "I'd slightly prefer
postponing it one
> more release which might help a bit of our downstream maintenance"
Do you mind posting a deprecation patch to clarify the situation?
The key thing the first deprecation patch missed was that it failed
to issue a warning message when RDMA migration was actually used.
With regards,
Daniel
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