On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 6:43 PM Laine Stump <laine(a)laine.org> wrote:
On 7/19/22 12:01 PM, Laine Stump wrote:
> On 7/19/22 11:09 AM, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:02 PM Laine Stump <laine(a)laine.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/18/22 11:15 AM, Jiri Denemark wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 10:40:56 +0200, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 10:25 AM Jiri Denemark
>>>>> <jdenemar(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Which in ideal case would mean only a QMP command (such as
>>>>>> hotplugging a non-migratable device) is the only way to add
migration
>>>>>> blocker. If this is true, than we're safe as libvirt does
not
>>>>>> allow such
>>>>>> commands between qemuMigrationSrcIsAllowed and migration start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, that rules out a few bad use cases. I can do a fast lookup to
>>>>> check if blockers can be added without the knowledge of libvirt.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, is there a reason for not implementing the correct
>>>>>> solution
>>>>>> right away as a separate patch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was not sure if libvirt already had another way to check, for
>>>>> example, if the vhost device didn't have VHOST_F_LOG_ALL
feature.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not aware of such check, but even if it exists, checking for
>>>> migration blockers looks like the right way of doing things anyway.
>>>
>>> Actually that's been on my todo list for a long time - for any qemu
that
>>> supports the QMP command that checks for migratability, we should be
>>> calling this command rather than checking against our own internal list
>>> (which is really just an "informed guess") of what can't be
migrated.
>>> This way we'll always get the right answer (or at least what QEMU
>>> believes to be the right answer :-)). Fixing it this way will also mean
>>> that migration of VFIO devices will just "magically" start working
once
>>> a migration-supporting driver is written for the device, and the correct
>>> vfio driver is bound to the device (this latter item is also on my
>>> list).
>>>
>>> So if you're up for making the patch to call the QMP command, I'd
be
>>> happy to review it!
>>>
>>
>> Thanks! Actually I'd need some guidance first, I'm not very used to
>> libvirt code.
>>
>> As I understand I should create a function in qemu_agent.h/c, a getter
>> similar to qemuAgentGetFSInfo. How can I get a qemuAgent from
>> qemuMigrationSrcIsAllowed? I only have a virQEMUDriver there.
>
> qemu_agent.c is only for functions that require calling to the QEMU
> guest agent, which is a process running inside the guest. You just need
> to run a simple QMP command. There are some good examples of this in
> qemu_monitor_json.c
>
>>
>> For now it should be enough to delete vdpa hardcoded negation, and
>> then other parts of libvirt can delete other hardcoded checks, isn't
>> it?
>
> There's just a single function that checks for migratability
> (qemuMigrationSrcIsAllowed()). In theory *everything* in that function
> should be deprecated by just calling qemu to ask. In practice there may
> be / probably are things that qemu doesn't count as "can't
migrate" that
> really should be counted that way. Certainly the VDPA and hostdev checks
> should be removable immediately though (although of course this should
> still be checked before pushing!)
>
>
> What I would do is this:
>
> 1) a patch that adds code to the qemu_capabilities to set a flag if the
> desired field in the "query-migrate" QMP command would be filled in by
> this qemu binary.
Just to permanently document live discussions from IRC:
jjongsma pointed us to a patch he wrote a year ago (but never pushed
upstream) that implements (1):
https://gitlab.com/jjongsma/libvirt/-/commit/4003b7047058a17465083178d6c0...
Thanks!
>
> 2) a patch that adds a function to qemu_monitor_json.c to call that
> command and return migratable/not.
Thinking about this more, I guess a function that returns the full text
of "blocked-reason" would be more useful (that way it could be easily
logged).
I'm actually returned all the array in the form of `char ***`
> 3) a patch that adds a call to that function to
> qemuMigrationSrcIsAllowed().
>
What I cannot find an example of is how to get the qemuMonitor from
the virQEMUDriver that qemuMigrationSrcIsAllowed has as the parameter.
> 4) additional patches that remove specific hardcoded checks
*only if the
> new field in query-migrate is available (as indicated by the new
> capabilities flag) and returned a definite yes/no (otherwise the checks
> still need to be done, to account for older qemu binaries that don't
> have the qmp command).
>
Yes, I agree.
Thanks!
> I had thought there was a bugzilla somewhere that was tracking
this for
> libvirt, but I can't find it.
>