On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 08:31:08PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
On 03/16/2017 05:45 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 05:08:57PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
>> Hello, All!
>>
>> There is a problem in the current libvirt implementation. domain.xml
>> allows to specify only basic set of options, especially in the case
>> of QEMU, when there are really a lot of tweaks in format drivers.
>> Most likely these options will never be supported in a good way
>> in libvirt as recognizable entities.
>>
>> Right now in order to debug libvirt QEMU VM in production I am using
>> very strange approach:
>> - disk section of domain XML is removed
>> - exact command line options to start the disk are specified at the end
>> of domain.xml whithin <qemu:commandline> as described by Stefan
>>
>>
http://blog.vmsplice.net/2011/04/how-to-pass-qemu-command-line-options.html
>>
>> The problem is that when debug is finished and viable combinations of
>> options is found I can not drop VM in such state in the production. This
>> is the pain and problem. For example, I have spend 3 days with the
>> VM of one customer which blames us for slow IO in the guest. I have
>> found very good combination of non-standard options which increases
>> disk performance 5 times (not 5%). Currently I can not put this combination
>> in the production as libvirt does not see the disk.
>>
>> I propose to do very simple thing, may be I am not the first one here,
>> but it would be nice to allow to pass arbitrary option to the QEMU
>> command line. This could be done in a very generic way if we will
>> allow to specify additional options inside <driver> section like this:
>>
>> <disk type='file' device='disk'>
>> <driver name='qemu' type='qcow2' cache='none'
io='native'
>> iothread='1'>
>> <option name='l2-cache-size' value='64M/>
>> <option name='cache-clean-interval'
value='32'/>
>> </driver>
>> <source file='/var/lib/libvirt/images/rhel7.qcow2'/>
>> <target dev='sda' bus='scsi'/>
>> <address type='drive' controller='0' bus='0'
target='0' unit='0'/>
>> </disk>
>>
>> and so on. The meaning (at least for QEMU) is quite simple -
>> these options will just be added to the end of the -drive command
>> line. The meaning for other drivers should be the same and I
>> think that there are ways to pass generic options in them.
> It is a general policy that we do *not* do generic option passthrough
> in this kind of manner. We always want to represent concepts explicitly
> with named attributes, so that if 2 hypervisors support the same concept
> we can map it the same way in the XML
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
In general this policy means that the management software which
wants to implement some differentiation in between VMs f.e.
in disk tuning is forced to use qemu:commandline backdoor.
That is a pity. Exactly like in the case with additional logs.
Thank you for the discussion. At least I have found new way
to perform some fine tuning.
Ignoring the question of generic option passthrough, I think we can model
the cache settings in libvirt XML explicitly. Other types of disk besides
qcow2 can have a cache concept, so I think we could create something like
this:
<driver name='qemu' type='qcow2' ....>
<cache>
<clean interval="2" unit="seconds"/>
<bank name="l2" size="1024" unit="KiB"/>
<bank name="refcount" size="1024"
unit="KiB"/>
</cache>
</driver>
The "bank" element would be permitted to be repeated multiple times if a
particular diskk driver had multiple caches it needed.
In the storage vol XML, we would want a way top report what the size of
the L2 and refcount tables are when reporting qcow2 volumes, so apps
know the maximum sensible size to use for cache.
Regards,
Daniel
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