£ukasz Mierzwa wrote:

Hi £ukasz,

I will try to answer your questions inline.

Hi,

I'm trying to setup pool of machines (nodes) for virtual machines hosting and I got few question about shared storage. My main requirements are:
1. central management - I've got simple python app that stores information about all virtual machines and all nodes, this app needs to be able to manage volumes using libvirt API, so I need libvirt volume pools

Storage pools will let you manage iSCSI LUNs as volumes.  When you start the iSCSI pool, the node will login to the iSCSI target and libvirt will create a volume in the pool for each LUN on that target. 

2. live migration - I got shared storage with HA, I want to use it also for live migration in case one of nodes is dying or if I want to do some load balancing

By HA you mean you have two targets presenting the same LUNs, or do you mean something else?

Right now I'm thinking about 2 machines with disks synchronized using drdb, both acting as a identical iscsi targets, iscsi HA will be provided by heartbeat. So I will end up with virtual IP pointing to working iscsi target, drdb should keep storage is sync. But:

1. I can't just use single iscsi LUN and export it as libvirt storage pool to each node, because no pool type would work that way, right?

You could create a logical pool on the iSCSI LUN and libvirt can create and destroy volumes in the logical pool, which I think is what you're saying below.

2. http://libvirt.org/storage.html section "iSCSI volume pools" says:
"Volumes must be pre-allocated on the iSCSI server, and cannot be created via the libvirt APIs."
So even if I got one LUN per node and set it as iscsi volume pool I would need to create each volume on iscsi target. Libvirt can't manage volumes in such pool, it can only assign already created volumes to virtual machines, right?

What that means is that libvirt doesn't know how to tell an iSCSI array to create a new LUN.  You have to use whatever admin tools you use to manage the array to create new LUNs, but then libvirt will discover them with a pool refresh and you can assign them to guests.

3. So maybe my storage could be setup as LVM volume group and this lvm group would be managed as libvirt lvm volume pool on master (from heartbeat POV) iscsi target. I would create one logical volume per virtual machine, export this volume as a separate iscsi LUN, and use this LUN as iscsi volume for virtual machine.
To create new virtual machine I would:
a) create lvm volume on iscsi target using libvirt
b) export this volume using iscsi
c) define virtual machine with this volume
But can I create iscsi volume without pool?

I think I'm following you, but let me see if I can restate what you're saying:

a) With your array's management tools, not with with libvirt, create a single iSCSI LUN (or several LUNs) on a target on your array.
b) With libvirt, create an iSCSI storage pool for that iSCSI target.
c) With libvirt, create a logical storage pool on that LUN, which creates a LVM group on that LUN.
d) With libvirt, you create (and destroy) logical volumes in the LVM group and assign them to guests.

Does it makes any sense? Are there better ways to *manage* volumes for virtual machines using iscsi?

And just to make sure I'm clear on what you mean by manage, you mean create and destroy, right?

Dave