Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost(a)redhat.com> writes:
+Markus
On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 03:43:03PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 09:56:15 +0100
> Thomas Huth <thuth(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On 02/12/2019 22.00, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 08:39:48AM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 18:46:12 +0100
> > >> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 29/11/19 13:16, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > >>>> As for "-m", I'd make it just an alias that
translates
> > >>>> -m/mem-path/mem-prealloc
> > >>>
> > >>> I think we should just deprecate -mem-path/-mem-prealloc in 5.0.
CCing
> > >>> Thomas as mister deprecation. :)
> > >>
> > >> I'll add that to my series
> > >
> > > Considering that the plan is to eventually reimplement those
> > > options as syntactic sugar for memory backend options (hopefully
> > > in less than 2 QEMU releases), what's the point of deprecating
> > > them?
> >
> > Well, it depends on the "classification" [1] of the parameter...
> >
> > Let's ask: What's the main purpose of the option?
> >
> > Is it easier to use than the "full" option, and thus likely to be
used
> > by a lot of people who run QEMU directly from the CLI? In that case it
> > should stay as "convenience option" and not be deprecated.
> >
> > Or is the option merely there to give the upper layers like libvirt or
> > some few users and their scripts some more grace period to adapt their
> > code, but we all agree that the options are rather ugly and should
> > finally go away? Then it's rather a "legacy option" and the
deprecation
> > process is the right way to go. Our QEMU interface is still way
> > overcrowded, we should try to keep it as clean as possible.
>
> After switching to memdev for main RAM, users could use relatively
> short global options
> -global memory-backend.prealloc|share=on
> and
> -global memory-backend-file.mem-path=X|prealloc|share=on
>
> instead of us adding and maintaining slightly shorter
> -mem-shared/-mem-path/-mem-prealloc
Global properties are a convenient way to expose knobs through
the command line with little effort, but we have no documentation
on which QOM properties are really supposed to be touched by
users using -global.
Unless we fix the lack of documentation, I'd prefer to have
syntactic sugar translated to -global instead of recommending
direct usage of -global.
Fair point.
I'd take QOM property documentation over still more sugar.
Sometimes, the practical way to make simple things simple is sugar. I
can accept that. This doesn't look like such a case, though.