On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:19:18PM +0000, Wang, Huaqiang wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Kletzander [mailto:mkletzan@redhat.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:07 PM
> To: Wang, Huaqiang <huaqiang.wang(a)intel.com>
> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com; Feng, Shaohe <shaohe.feng(a)intel.com>; Niu, Bing
> <bing.niu(a)intel.com>; Ding, Jian-feng <jian-feng.ding(a)intel.com>; Zang,
Rui
> <rui.zang(a)intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [libvirt] [RFC PATCHv2 00/10] x86 RDT Cache Monitoring
> Technology (CMT)
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 02:29:32AM +0000, Wang, Huaqiang wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Martin Kletzander [mailto:mkletzan@redhat.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:11 PM
> >> To: Wang, Huaqiang <huaqiang.wang(a)intel.com>
> >> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com; Feng, Shaohe <shaohe.feng(a)intel.com>;
> >> Niu, Bing <bing.niu(a)intel.com>; Ding, Jian-feng
> >> <jian-feng.ding(a)intel.com>; Zang, Rui <rui.zang(a)intel.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [libvirt] [RFC PATCHv2 00/10] x86 RDT Cache Monitoring
> >> Technology (CMT)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 07:19:41AM +0000, Wang, Huaqiang wrote:
> >> >Hi Martin,
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for your comments. Please see my reply inline.
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Martin Kletzander [mailto:mkletzan@redhat.com]
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:27 PM
> >> >> To: Wang, Huaqiang <huaqiang.wang(a)intel.com>
> >> >> Cc: libvir-list(a)redhat.com; Feng, Shaohe
<shaohe.feng(a)intel.com>;
> >> >> Niu, Bing <bing.niu(a)intel.com>; Ding, Jian-feng
> >> >> <jian-feng.ding(a)intel.com>; Zang, Rui
<rui.zang(a)intel.com>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [libvirt] [RFC PATCHv2 00/10] x86 RDT Cache
> >> >> Monitoring Technology (CMT)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:00:48PM +0800, Wang Huaqiang wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This is the V2 of RFC and the POC source code for introducing
x86
> >> >> >RDT CMT feature, thanks Martin Kletzander for his review and
> >> >> >constructive suggestion for V1.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This series is trying to provide the similar functions of the
> >> >> >perf event based CMT, MBMT and MBML features in reporting
cache
> >> >> >occupancy, total memory bandwidth utilization and local memory
> >> >> >bandwidth utilization information in livirt. Firstly we focus
on cmt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >x86 RDT Cache Monitoring Technology (CMT) provides a medthod
to
> >> >> >track the cache occupancy information per CPU thread. We are
> >> >> >leveraging the implementation of kernel resctrl filesystem and
> >> >> >create our patches on top of that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Describing the functionality from a high level:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >1. Extend the output of 'domstats' and report CMT
inforamtion.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Comparing with perf event based CMT implementation in libvirt,
> >> >> >this series extends the output of command 'domstat' and
reports
> >> >> >cache occupancy information like these:
> >> >> ><pre>
> >> >> >[root@dl-c200 libvirt]# virsh domstats vm3 --cpu-resource
> >> >> >Domain: 'vm3'
> >> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_2.value=4415488
> >> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_2.vcpus=2
> >> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_1.value=7839744
> >> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_1.vcpus=1
> >> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.value=53796864
> >> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.vcpus=0,3
> >> >> ></pre>
> >> >> >The vcpus have been arragned into three monitoring groups,
these
> >> >> >three groups cover vcpu 1, vcpu 2 and vcpus 0,3 respectively.
> >> >> >Take an example, the
'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.value' reports
> >> >> >the cache occupancy information for vcpu 0 and vcpu 3, the
> >> >> 'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0,3.vcpus'
> >> >> >represents the vcpu group information.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >To address Martin's suggestion "beware as 1-4 is
something else
> >> >> >than
> >> >> >1,4 so you need to differentiate that.", the content of
'vcpus'
> >> >> >(cpu.cacheoccupancy.<groupname>.vcpus=xxx) has been
specially
> >> >> >processed, if vcpus is a continous range, e.g. 0-2, then the
> >> >> >output of cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0-2.vcpus will be like
> >> >> >'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0-2.vcpus=0,1,2'
> >> >> >instead of
> >> >> >'cpu.cacheoccupancy.vcpus_0-2.vcpus=0-2'.
> >> >> >Please note that 'vcpus_0-2' is a name of this
monitoring group,
> >> >> >could be specified any other word from the XML configuration
file
> >> >> >or lively changed with the command introduced in following
part.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> One small nit according to the naming (but it shouldn't block
any
> >> >> reviewers from reviewing, just keep this in mind for next version
> >> >> for
> >> >> example) is that this is still inconsistent.
> >> >
> >> >OK. I'll try to use words such as 'cache', 'cpu
resource' and avoid
> >> >using 'RDT', 'CMT'.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oh, you misunderstood, I meant the naming in the domstats output =)
> >>
> >> >The way domstats are structured when there is something like an
> >> >> array could shed some light into this. What you suggested is
> >> >> really kind of hard to parse (although looks better). What would
> >> >> you say to
> >> something like this:
> >> >>
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.count = 3
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.value=4415488
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.vcpus=2
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.name=vcpus_2
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.value=7839744
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.vcpus=1
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.name=vcpus_1
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.value=53796864
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.vcpus=0,3
> >> >> cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.name=0,3
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Your arrangement looks more reasonable, thanks for your advice.
> >> >However, as I mentioned in another email that I sent to libvirt-list
> >> >hours ago, the kernel resctrl interface provides cache occupancy
> >> >information for each cache block for every resource group.
> >> >Maybe we need to expose the cache occupancy for each cache block.
> >> >If you agree, we need to refine the 'domstats' output message,
how
> >> >about this:
> >> >
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.count=3
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.name=vcpus_2
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.vcpus=2
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.block.count=2
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.block.0.bytes=5488
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.block.1. bytes =4410000
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.name=vcpus_1
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.vcpus=1
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.block.count=2
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.block.0. bytes =7839744
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.block.0. bytes =0
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.name=0,3
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.vcpus=0,3
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.block.count=2
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.block.0. bytes=53796864
> >> > cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.block.1. bytes=0
> >> >
> >>
> >> What do you mean by cache block? Is that (cache_size / granularity)?
> >> In that case it looks fine, I guess (without putting too much thought into
it).
> >
> >No. 'cache block' that I mean is indexed with 'cache id', with
the id
> >number kept in '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cache/index*/id'.
> >
> >Generally for a two socket server node, there are two sockets (with
> >CPU
> >E5-2680 v4, for example) in system, and each socket has a L3 cache, if
> >resctrl monitoring group is created (/sys/fs/resctrl/p0, for example),
> >you can find the cache occupancy information for these two L3 cache
> >areas separately from file
> >/sys/fs/resctrl/p0/mon_data/mon_L3_00/llc_occupancy
> >and file
> >/sys/fs/resctrl/p0/mon_data/mon_L3_01/llc_occupancy
> >Cache information for individual socket is meaningful to detect
> >performance issues such as workload balancing...etc. We'd better expose
> >these details to libvirt users.
> >To my knowledge, I am using 'cache block' to describe the CPU cache
> >indexed with number found in
'/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cache/index*/id'.
> >I welcome suggestion on other kind of naming for it.
> >
>
> To be consistent I'd prefer "cache" "cache bank" and
"index" or "id". I don't
> have specific requirements, I just don't want to invent new words. Look at how
> it is described in capabilities for example.
>
Make sense. Then let's use 'id' for the the purpose, and the output would be:
cpu.cacheoccupancy.count=3
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.name=vcpus_2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.vcpus=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.id.count=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.id.0.bytes=5488
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.id.1.bytes =4410000
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.name=vcpus_1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.vcpus=1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.id.count=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.id.0.bytes =7839744
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.id.1.bytes =0
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.name=0,3
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.vcpus=0,3
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.id.count=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.id.0.bytes=53796864
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.id.1.bytes=0
How about it?
I'm switching contexts too much and hence I didn't make myself clear. Since IDs
are not guaranteed to be consecutive, this might be more future-proof:
cpu.cacheoccupancy.count=3
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.name=vcpus_2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.vcpus=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.count=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.0.id=0
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.0.bytes=5488
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.1.id=1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.1.bytes =4410000
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.name=vcpus_1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.vcpus=1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.bank.count=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.0.id=0
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.bank.0.bytes =7839744
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.1.id=1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.1.bank.1.bytes =0
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.name=0,3
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.vcpus=0,3
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.bank.count=2
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.0.id=0
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.bank.0.bytes=53796864
cpu.cacheoccupancy.0.bank.1.id=1
cpu.cacheoccupancy.2.bank.1.bytes=0