2:11 a.m.
On 12/03/2021 08.42, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:14 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd(a)redhat.com
<mailto:philmd@redhat.com>> wrote:
[...]
+##
+# @AcceleratorInfo:
+#
+# Accelerator information.
+#
+# @name: The accelerator name.
+#
+# Since: 6.0
+##
+{ 'union': 'AcceleratorInfo',
+ 'base': {'name': 'Accelerator'},
+ 'discriminator': 'name',
+ 'data': { } }
+
Making room for future details, why not.
I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For KVM on
POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM on
MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
+##
+# @query-accels:
+#
+# Get a list of AcceleratorInfo for all built-in accelerators.
+#
+# Returns: a list of @AcceleratorInfo describing each accelerator.
+#
+# Since: 6.0
+#
+# Example:
+#
+# -> { "execute": "query-accels" }
+# <- { "return": [
+# {
+# "type": "qtest"
+# },
+# {
+# "type": "kvm"
+# }
+# ] }
+#
+##
+{ 'command': 'query-accels',
+ 'returns': ['AcceleratorInfo'] }
That's nice, but how do you know which accels are actually enabled?
I guess we need two commands in the end, one for querying which accelerators
are available, and one for querying the data from the currently active
accelerator...?
Thomas
2:48 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH 1/6] accel: Introduce 'query-accels' QMP command
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 09:11:45AM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 12/03/2021 08.42, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:14 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
> <philmd(a)redhat.com <mailto:philmd@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
[...]
> +##
> +# @AcceleratorInfo:
> +#
> +# Accelerator information.
> +#
> +# @name: The accelerator name.
> +#
> +# Since: 6.0
> +##
> +{ 'union': 'AcceleratorInfo',
> + 'base': {'name': 'Accelerator'},
> + 'discriminator': 'name',
> + 'data': { } }
>
> +
>
>
> Making room for future details, why not.
I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For KVM on
POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM on
MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
Could also pre-expand all of these and list them individually.
> +##
> +# @query-accels:
> +#
> +# Get a list of AcceleratorInfo for all built-in accelerators.
> +#
> +# Returns: a list of @AcceleratorInfo describing each accelerator.
> +#
> +# Since: 6.0
> +#
> +# Example:
> +#
> +# -> { "execute": "query-accels" }
> +# <- { "return": [
> +# {
> +# "type": "qtest"
> +# },
> +# {
> +# "type": "kvm"
> +# }
> +# ] }
> +#
> +##
> +{ 'command': 'query-accels',
> + 'returns': ['AcceleratorInfo'] }
>
>
> That's nice, but how do you know which accels are actually enabled?
I guess we need two commands in the end, one for querying which accelerators
are available, and one for querying the data from the currently active
accelerator...?
If we listed each accelerator individually, then we could use booleans
for them, where only the active one would be true. If we can't come up
with another need for the accelerator-specific info now, then I'd leave
it to be added at a later time when it is needed.
Thanks,
drew
2:52 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH 1/6] accel: Introduce 'query-accels' QMP command
On 3/12/21 9:48 AM, Andrew Jones wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 09:11:45AM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 12/03/2021 08.42, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:14 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
>> <philmd(a)redhat.com <mailto:philmd@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
> [...]
>> +##
>> +# @AcceleratorInfo:
>> +#
>> +# Accelerator information.
>> +#
>> +# @name: The accelerator name.
>> +#
>> +# Since: 6.0
>> +##
>> +{ 'union': 'AcceleratorInfo',
>> + 'base': {'name': 'Accelerator'},
>> + 'discriminator': 'name',
>> + 'data': { } }
>>
>> +
>>
>>
>> Making room for future details, why not.
>
> I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For KVM on
> POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM on
> MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
> for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
Could also pre-expand all of these and list them individually.
Let us consider simplicity for the reader, and which use cases we expect for this.
>
>> +##
>> +# @query-accels:
>> +#
>> +# Get a list of AcceleratorInfo for all built-in accelerators.
>> +#
>> +# Returns: a list of @AcceleratorInfo describing each accelerator.
>> +#
>> +# Since: 6.0
>> +#
>> +# Example:
>> +#
>> +# -> { "execute": "query-accels" }
>> +# <- { "return": [
>> +# {
>> +# "type": "qtest"
>> +# },
>> +# {
>> +# "type": "kvm"
>> +# }
>> +# ] }
>> +#
>> +##
>> +{ 'command': 'query-accels',
>> + 'returns': ['AcceleratorInfo'] }
>>
>>
>> That's nice, but how do you know which accels are actually enabled?
>
> I guess we need two commands in the end, one for querying which accelerators
> are available, and one for querying the data from the currently active
> accelerator...?
>
If we listed each accelerator individually, then we could use booleans
for them, where only the active one would be true. If we can't come up
with another need for the accelerator-specific info now, then I'd leave
it to be added at a later time when it is needed.
Thanks,
drew
3:09 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH 1/6] accel: Introduce 'query-accels' QMP command
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 09:52:33AM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote:
On 3/12/21 9:48 AM, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 09:11:45AM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 12/03/2021 08.42, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:14 AM Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
>>> <philmd(a)redhat.com <mailto:philmd@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>> [...]
>>> +##
>>> +# @AcceleratorInfo:
>>> +#
>>> +# Accelerator information.
>>> +#
>>> +# @name: The accelerator name.
>>> +#
>>> +# Since: 6.0
>>> +##
>>> +{ 'union': 'AcceleratorInfo',
>>> + 'base': {'name': 'Accelerator'},
>>> + 'discriminator': 'name',
>>> + 'data': { } }
>>>
>>> +
>>>
>>>
>>> Making room for future details, why not.
>>
>> I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For KVM on
>> POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM on
>> MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or
KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
>> for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
>
> Could also pre-expand all of these and list them individually.
Let us consider simplicity for the reader, and which use cases we expect for this.
What do you mean by "reader"? If you mean the QMP client that needs this
information, then I can't think of anything more simple than a single list
of booleans with descriptive names to process. If you mean that the
expected use cases don't care about all those variants, then you don't
need to worry about that. Only the ones compiled in will be in the list.
The expected use cases will never see the other ones.
Thanks,
drew
3:01 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH 1/6] accel: Introduce 'query-accels' QMP command
On 12/03/21 09:48, Andrew Jones wrote:
> I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For
KVM on
> POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM on
> MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
> for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
Could also pre-expand all of these and list them individually.
That seems worse (in general) because in a lot of cases you don't care;
the basic query-accels output should match the argument to "-accel".
Paolo
3:17 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH 1/6] accel: Introduce 'query-accels' QMP command
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:01:43AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
On 12/03/21 09:48, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For KVM on
> > POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM on
> > MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or
KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
> > for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
>
> Could also pre-expand all of these and list them individually.
That seems worse (in general) because in a lot of cases you don't care; the
basic query-accels output should match the argument to "-accel".
For these special subtypes, what's the property/state that indicates it
when just using '-accel kvm' on the command line? Because if this qmp
list matches the '-accel' parameter list, then qtest and other qmp clients
may need to query that other information too, in order for this accel
query to be useful. And, do we need an accel-specific qmp query for it?
Or, is that information already available?
Thanks,
drew
3:28 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH 1/6] accel: Introduce 'query-accels' QMP command
On 12/03/21 10:17, Andrew Jones wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:01:43AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 12/03/21 09:48, Andrew Jones wrote:
>>> I think we definitely need the additional data section here: For KVM on
>>> POWER, it would be good to know whether it's KVM-HV or KVM-PR, for KVM
on
>>> MIPS it would be good to know whether it's KVM_VM_MIPS_VZ or
KVM_VM_MIPS_TE,
>>> for KVM on x86 whether it's the AMD flavor or Intel, ...
>>
>> Could also pre-expand all of these and list them individually.
>
> That seems worse (in general) because in a lot of cases you don't care; the
> basic query-accels output should match the argument to "-accel".
>
For these special subtypes, what's the property/state that indicates it
when just using '-accel kvm' on the command line? Because if this qmp
list matches the '-accel' parameter list, then qtest and other qmp clients
may need to query that other information too, in order for this accel
query to be useful. And, do we need an accel-specific qmp query for it?
Or, is that information already available?
It depends.
On PPC (if I remember/understand correctly) only pseries supports both
HV and PR, while all other machines only support KVM-PR. So in that
case it's a kvm-type machine property that is defined only for the
pseries machine.
On MIPS instead there's no option and VZ always wins over TE. I think
it could be made an option on -accel, but I'm not familiar with MIPS
machine types.
Something like "name: 'kvm', types: ['book3s-hv', 'pr']"
would work
nicely for KVM-PPC, and likewise for MIPS.
Paolo
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