On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:57:04PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrang?? wrote:
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:49:50PM -0800, Praveen Paladugu wrote:
> > Am I right in thinking that "Microsoft Hypervisor" in this context
is
> > simply Hyper-V, aka, the same hypervisor you traditionally have under
> > a Windows Dom0 ?
> >
> > If so then I could think that we probably don't need to have a new
> > virDomainVirt type enum entry. We could simply use the pre-existing
> > VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_HYPERV to represent this configuration in the
> > cloud-hypervisor configuration.
> >
>
> I considered reusing VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_HYPERV entry. From what I
> understand, this hypervisor option implies Libvirt talks to HyperV using
> WMI. Although the binary bits of the hypervisors may be the same in both
> configurations, the interfaces to interact with the hypervisors are
> completely different.
In the context of libvirt XML config, the virDomainVirt enum is very
specifically referring to the underlying hypervisor guest ABI. This
is distinct from any protocol used for the management of the platform
by libvirt.
This is why both the CloudHypervisor and QEMU drivers in libvirt
will both support the VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_KVM for guests, despite
being completely different mgmt APIs.
Similarly in the past we have have multiple drivers all
use VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_XEN for the guest, while using
completely different mgmt APIs.
So if "mshv" in the context of CloudHypervisor is running
HyperV under Dom0 and the guest primarily needs to support
the HyperV ABI, then I would say VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_HYPERV
could be the appropriate choice.
> With the introduced "mshv" hypervisor option, Libvirt doesn't
interact
> with "/dev/mshv" at all. Libvirt just invokes cloud-hypervisor which in
> turn talks to mshv via kernel ioctls as necessary.
That's OK. The distinction of control/mgmt API is represented
by the different libvirt virConnect URI schemes. virDomainVirt
is exclusively about what primary hypervisor guest ABI is exposed.
Thanks for the explanation, Daniel.
By "underlying hypervisor guest ABI" I am guessing you are referring to
the interfaces used for starting and managing guests. If so, the ABIs available
in Hyperv(VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_HYPERV) and "mshv" configurations are completely
different too. This is because the underlying Operating systems: Windows and
Linux respectively, provide different interfaces for programs to start and
manage guests. So, I'd say the hypervisor guest ABIs are different in
these 2 configurations.
Above, you called out CloudHypervisor and Qemu drivers in libvirt
supporting VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_KVM. This makes sense to me. In these 2
configruations, both the VMMs (CloudHypervisor, Qemu) use the
same/simiar set of interfaces provided by the kernel and hypervisor(KVM) to
manage guests. Unfortunately, this isn't the case with
VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_HYPERV and VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_MSHV types.
With VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_HYPERV and VIR_DOMAIN_VIRT_MSHV, as different
hypervisor types, checks on the hosts will be simpler, as each of these types
would imply a host OS.
Regards,
Praveen
>
> With regards,
> Daniel
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