Re: [libvirt] [PATCH 00/17] Redo website layout and branding

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 10:17:18AM +0100, Peter Krempa wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:41:41 +0000, Daniel Berrange wrote: > > The current libvirt website design dates from 2008 and > > has not changed significantly since. Compared to > > contemporary open source project websites it looks > > pretty dated and cluttered. > > IMO dated is not that bad. Cluttered is the issue perhaps. Said this I > don't really like all the "modern" web pages, thus I'm biased. > True, you do, but you must also admit that this doesn't do most of the bad stuff "modern" pages do. You definitely know what I'm talking about. ;) > [...] > > > The libvirt logo used a specific font with angled tops > > to letters like "l", "b" and "t" - this is the "Overpass" > > font, made available by Red Hat under an open source > > font license. The re-branding makes use of webfont > > support so that we can use this font across the entire > > libvirt website for a consistent look. > > > > The colors of the website CSS now exactly match the > > colors used in the logo in most places. > > +1 > > > The bigger change is in the layout, with the huge > > left hand sitemap nav bar being removed to give more > > space to the main content. The front page now directly > > links to the key pages that were shown to be highly > > visited in the apache web logs. Most of the rest of > > the links are now available from the "docs.html" page > > linked from "Learn" in the top nav bar. > > I'm not a fan of this despite having monitors in portrait mode and thus > finally having the whole width with content. > > What bothers me is that for navigation you can't select a different > section without opening the menu page (either by going back, or by > clicking on the "learn". > This might be an issue, but the bigger one I see in this is that there is no place on the front page (or anywhere rather) that says "Documentation". "Learn" is very misleading for me. > On the other hand I (and my favorities completion in my browser) > remember most of the pages I'm accessing, thus I'm not using the menu > anyways usually. > > > Another key change is that the download page now > > covers all language bindings, test suites, docs > > released by the project, not merely the core C > > library. > > > > Finally a new page "contribute.html" is added as the > > source of information useful to people wishing to get > > involved in the libvirt project. > > > > View the new site here > > > > https://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-new-website/ > > > > Note that the front page includes a feed of 4 most > > recent blog posts, however, if visiting over https:// > > this will be blocked by browsers. In firefox you > > can tell it to allow http:// content temporarily > > at which point the feed will appear. I'll be doing > > a proper fix by getting a TLS cert for virt-tools.org > > website setup. > > In this new design all the XML snippets and other stuff enclosed in > <code> in the source is not in a monospace font any more, which is > terrible. > > Additionally I don't quite like sans-serif fonts for big blocks of > texts, but the old page was not better in this aspect. I'd be in favor > of changing to a serif font. > Serif is meant for paper, monitors should show Sans-Serif. And I'm not saying it just because I like it that way, but as it is supposed to be like that. Not all might like it, though.