On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 04:19:38PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
On 10/10/2017 03:41 PM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 02:07:25PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 10/10/2017 11:50 AM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>>> Yes. Another possibility is to enable it when there is >1 NUMA node
in
>>>> the guest. We generally don't do this kind of magic but higher
layers
>>>> (oVirt/OpenStack) do.
>>> Can't the guest make this decision, instead of the host?
>> By guest, do you mean the guest OS itself or the admin of the guest VM?
> It could be either. But even if action is required from the
> guest admin to get better performance in some cases, I'd argue
> that the default behavior of a Linux guest shouldn't cause a
> performance regression if the host stops hiding a feature in
> CPUID.
>
>> I am thinking about maybe adding kernel boot command line option like
>> "unfair_pvspinlock_cpu_threshold=4" which will instruct the OS to use
>> unfair spinlock if the number of CPUs is 4 or less, for example. The
>> default value of 0 will have the same behavior as it is today. Please
>> let me know what you guys think about that.
> If that's implemented, can't Linux choose a reasonable default
> for unfair_pvspinlock_cpu_threshold that won't require the admin
> to manually configure it on most cases?
It is hard to have a fixed value as it depends on the CPUs being used as
well as the kind of workloads that are being run. Besides, using unfair
locks have the undesirable side effect of being subject to lock
starvation under certain circumstances. So we may not work it to be
turned on by default. Customers have to take their own risk if they want
that.
Probably I am not seeing all variables involved, so pardon my
confusion. Would unfair_pvspinlock_cpu_threshold > num_cpus just
disable usage of kvm_pv_unhalt, or make the guest choose a
completely different spinlock implementation?
Is the current default behavior of Linux guests when
kvm_pv_unhalt is unavailable a good default? If using
kvm_pv_unhalt is not always a good idea, why do Linux guests
default to eagerly trying to use it only because the host says
it's available?
--
Eduardo